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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    There’s always a line of course but look at how many of Knights ex-players swear by him. Izzo had ex-players come out in his defense as well. Some coaches are just a*holes with not much good redeeming value about them. Then there are coaches like Izzo who may be hard asses but his players know he has their best interests at heart.
    I generally agree. The kid didn’t lose any minutes playing and sure started getting his ass back on defense,
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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    It was unnecessary, anytime a coach physically challenges a player and has to be restrained it is over the edge

    The view regarding tough coaches is bullshit, a good coach never has to go to that extent, it is only allowed when the team is winning. Coaches are suppose to be teachers, not DIs, coaches who act like Izzo forgot it is suppose to be about the players, not them

    I tend to agree with you. I hated coaches like that when I was in school.
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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    It was unnecessary, anytime a coach physically challenges a player and has to be restrained it is over the edge

    The view regarding tough coaches is bullshit, a good coach never has to go to that extent, it is only allowed when the team is winning. Coaches are suppose to be teachers, not DIs, coaches who act like Izzo forgot it is suppose to be about the players, not them
    Spoken like a true puss

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    Let's see......Izzo, 22 years at Michigan State........22 trips to the NCAA tournamenst........7 trips to the Final Four.......what was the question again?......

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    I never root for anything from Michigan but I like coaches like Izzo. When I started reading about how he was over the top in his ripping this kid I had to go watch the clip and the game leading up to the scolding. What a bunch of soft people we have in this country. Soft parenting, soft coaching, ... leads to college kids looking for “safe spaces.” Gee whiz ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by leaningright View Post
    I never root for anything from Michigan but I like coaches like Izzo. When I started reading about how he was over the top in his ripping this kid I had to go watch the clip and the game leading up to the scolding. What a bunch of soft people we have in this country. Soft parenting, soft coaching, ... leads to college kids looking for “safe spaces.” Gee whiz ...
    That's exactly what it is. And the best coaches know their players. You don't necessarily take the same approach with every player because they all react differently. But the telling thing is from Izzo's ex-players was them saying if he doesn't yell at you it means he doesn't care which no player wants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    It was unnecessary, anytime a coach physically challenges a player and has to be restrained it is over the edge

    The view regarding tough coaches is bullshit, a good coach never has to go to that extent, it is only allowed when the team is winning. Coaches are suppose to be teachers, not DIs, coaches who act like Izzo forgot it is suppose to be about the players, not them
    Did you play sports growing up? I did and like most people I had many different kinds of coaches with different philosophies. But a couple of the best I had were hard *sses but they cared about you. I saw it then and I especially see it in hindsight. They got on me because they cared and they wanted to see me do the best I could.

    Is it fun being yelled at? No, it's not. But I'd rather than a coach who doesn't care and doesn't push you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    It was a metaphor for ESPN and the “Wokecenter” show he hosts. If enough complaints role in he very well could lose his job.

    I see you have no actual comment on Izzo’s actions and subsequent firestorm it has created
    I don't care about Izzo's actions.
    Just your wild assumption that van Pelt,could lose
    his job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    Let's see......Izzo, 22 years at Michigan State........22 trips to the NCAA tournamenst........7 trips to the Final Four.......what was the question again?......
    End justifies the means?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teflon Don View Post
    Spoken like a true puss
    No he’s just not a moron. I could see why Woody would have slapped your dumb ass upside the head to get your attention. Might knock some sense into you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by leaningright View Post
    I never root for anything from Michigan but I like coaches like Izzo. When I started reading about how he was over the top in his ripping this kid I had to go watch the clip and the game leading up to the scolding. What a bunch of soft people we have in this country. Soft parenting, soft coaching, ... leads to college kids looking for “safe spaces.” Gee whiz ...
    And in a lot of cases self defeating. I know kids who give up on sports cause they hated their Coach cause they took the fun completely out of playing sports. There’s a time to pat someone on the back and a time to kick their ass but you know as an educator that positive reinforcement and peer pressure are far better motivators than negative reinforcement.

    It’s something I’ve learned about leadership and it’s why so many businessmen, successful businessmen at that, really suck at leadership. Fear is the only method of leadership they know and that one trick poney don’t ride.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    Did you play sports growing up? I did and like most people I had many different kinds of coaches with different philosophies. But a couple of the best I had were hard *sses but they cared about you. I saw it then and I especially see it in hindsight. They got on me because they cared and they wanted to see me do the best I could.

    Is it fun being yelled at? No, it's not. But I'd rather than a coach who doesn't care and doesn't push you.
    In general I agree but far to many rely on yelling, screaming and intimidation when it totally isn’t necessary. There’s a time and a place for everything and a line to be crossed. Izzo didn’t cross that line.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Generic419 View Post
    I don't care about Izzo's actions.
    Just your wild assumption that van Pelt,could lose
    his job.
    Yea...I have to agree that’s hyperbole. I haven’t seen a firestorm over it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Generic419 View Post
    End justifies the means?
    your stupidity justifies keeping you on ignore......

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    your stupidity justifies keeping you on ignore......
    So you have no intelligent reply.Just childish insults.
    Tie Your 'roo down Mate

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