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    Default Scott Van Pelt (ESPN) Defends Tom Izzo

    This will probably end Van Pelt's career. For those who missed it, Izzo laid into one of his players during the tournament (as he often does) and certain factions melted down over it. In this era of "safe places" a coach challenging his player like Izzo did is unacceptable to many. SVP gives a short but excellent monologue on it and how we do no favors to kids by shielding them from criticism and not letting them face adversity.

    Edit: This board is full of Boomers. Anyone that age who grew up playing sports had to have a tough as nails coach like Izzo.



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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    This will probably end Van Pelt's career. For those who missed it, Izzo laid into one of his players during the tournament (as he often does) and certain factions melted down over it. In this era of "safe places" a coach challenging his player like Izzo did is unacceptable to many. SVP gives a short but excellent monologue on it and how we do no favors to kids by shielding them from criticism and not letting them face adversity.

    Edit: This board is full of Boomers. Anyone that age who grew up playing sports had to have a tough as nails coach like Izzo.


    Over stated,Van Pelt,has an opinion,it's his job
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    Quote Originally Posted by Generic419 View Post
    Over stated,Van Pelt,has an opinion,it's his job
    What's over stated? Have you not seen the reaction from Izzo's detractors? SVP nailed it. Or are you of the belief today's athletes need to be coddled?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    What's over stated? Have you not seen the reaction from Izzo's detractors? SVP nailed it. Or are you of the belief today's athletes need to be coddled?
    I believe van Pelt will keep his job
    Tie Your 'roo down Mate

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    Quote Originally Posted by Generic419 View Post
    I believe van Pelt will keep his job
    Not a big follower of ESPN?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    Not a big follower of ESPN?
    You claimed "This will probably end van Pelt's career".
    I say he will keep his job,your opinion is a nothingburger
    Tie Your 'roo down Mate

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    Quote Originally Posted by Generic419 View Post
    You claimed "This will probably end van Pelt's career".
    I say he will keep his job,your opinion is a nothingburger
    I would bet dollars to donuts that you don't follow sports do you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    I would bet dollars to donuts that you don't follow sports do you?
    You would be wrong,I watch Get Up,First Take,Sportscenter,Tony and Michael ,daily.
    You obviously don't stand by your statement.
    That "This will probably end van Pelt's career"
    Tie Your 'roo down Mate

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    Quote Originally Posted by Generic419 View Post
    You would be wrong,I watch Get Up,First Take,Sportscenter,Tony and Michael ,daily.
    You obviously don't stand by your statement.
    That "This will probably end van Pelt's career"
    It was a metaphor for ESPN and the “Wokecenter” show he hosts. If enough complaints role in he very well could lose his job.

    I see you have no actual comment on Izzo’s actions and subsequent firestorm it has created

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    This will probably end Van Pelt's career. For those who missed it, Izzo laid into one of his players during the tournament (as he often does) and certain factions melted down over it. In this era of "safe places" a coach challenging his player like Izzo did is unacceptable to many. SVP gives a short but excellent monologue on it and how we do no favors to kids by shielding them from criticism and not letting them face adversity.

    Edit: This board is full of Boomers. Anyone that age who grew up playing sports had to have a tough as nails coach like Izzo.


    I haven’t heard anyone getting their panties in a wad over it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    What's over stated? Have you not seen the reaction from Izzo's detractors? SVP nailed it. Or are you of the belief today's athletes need to be coddled?

    No. I honestly haven’t. Most I’ve heard is people oberving that’s how he coaches and always have had.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    Not a big follower of ESPN?

    You mean ESecPN?
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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    It was a metaphor for ESPN and the “Wokecenter” show he hosts. If enough complaints role in he very well could lose his job.

    I see you have no actual comment on Izzo’s actions and subsequent firestorm it has created
    I saw one report on Yahoo news but I’d hardly describe it as a firestorm. Half the coaches have some sort of meltdown every game.

    Though to be honest coaches can go to far with that. Woody Hayes, as much as I admire him, antics wouldn’t be tolerated today and understandably so. I’ve talked to several players who talked about Woody telling them to take their helmet off than slapping them upside the head like a DI would. That was swept under the rug back then and it shouldn’t have been. Same with Bobby Knight. Knight was a great Coach but he grossly crossed the line between hard assed disciplinarian and abuse. We both know what happened to both Coaches. They ended their careers in disgrace and it blemished all the really great work they did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mott the Hoople View Post
    I saw one report on Yahoo news but I’d hardly describe it as a firestorm. Half the coaches have some sort of meltdown every game.

    Though to be honest coaches can go to far with that. Woody Hayes, as much as I admire him, antics wouldn’t be tolerated today and understandably so. I’ve talked to several players who talked about Woody telling them to take their helmet off than slapping them upside the head like a DI would. That was swept under the rug back then and it shouldn’t have been. Same with Bobby Knight. Knight was a great Coach but he grossly crossed the line between hard assed disciplinarian and abuse. We both know what happened to both Coaches. They ended their careers in disgrace and it blemished all the really great work they did.
    There’s always a line of course but look at how many of Knights ex-players swear by him. Izzo had ex-players come out in his defense as well. Some coaches are just a*holes with not much good redeeming value about them. Then there are coaches like Izzo who may be hard asses but his players know he has their best interests at heart.

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    It was unnecessary, anytime a coach physically challenges a player and has to be restrained it is over the edge

    The view regarding tough coaches is bullshit, a good coach never has to go to that extent, it is only allowed when the team is winning. Coaches are suppose to be teachers, not DIs, coaches who act like Izzo forgot it is suppose to be about the players, not them

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