America's first cooperative was in 1735. We have lots of them now. https://www.thenews.coop/100093/sect...-usa-released/
Singapore (and Norway, among others) shows that it is quite possible to collectively own the means of production while also using price systems to assist in the allocation of productive factors. This is what market socialists have been saying for a hundred years.
The case of Singapore is more than just a funny gotcha to use against right-wingers. It actually raises an interesting question about what it is people care about when it comes to “capitalism” and “socialism.” Is capitalism primarily about markets or private ownership? Relatedly, is socialism primarily about ending markets or promoting collective ownership? Often these things are bundled together, but they are logically and practically separable. Singapore (and Norway, among others) shows that it is quite possible to collectively own the means of production while also using price systems to assist in the allocation of productive factors. This is what market socialists have been saying for a hundred years.
https://boingboing.net/2018/03/11/capitalist-ideal.html
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America's first cooperative was in 1735. We have lots of them now. https://www.thenews.coop/100093/sect...-usa-released/
gosh......WM wants us to be Singapore........unfortunately, he's more likely to get Venezuela.......
if i wanted venzuela i would be ingonring singapore and norway or even france in the 1960s state driven economies that were very succesful
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From your link:
Is that what you want?Singapore is a template for what China hopes to become: a state that uses surveillance, selective law enforcement, and claustrophobic control over individual behavior, in tandem with market systems, to create wealth and (above all else) stability -- perpetual rule for the people on top.
for the most part yes.. i'm sick of lawless chaoes i crave order
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