The free markets at work...

[evince]

Attachment 9048
Time for Democratic Socialism,end tyranny of the 1% on the masses

fuck you

Capitalism HAS to be part of it or you have no real freedom

[countryboy]

why do you pretend Capitalism can be unleashed and not create evils like child labor?


ITS HISTORICAL FACT

Again, what does this have to do with Russo bot holes? Have your Ukrainian handlers cleared you to talk about other stuff? You'd better be careful, that's a good way to get dead. Ukraines don't fuck around.

[evince]

Again, what does this have to do with Russo bot holes? Have your Ukrainian handlers cleared you to talk about other stuff? You'd better be careful, that's a good way to get dead. Ukraines don't fuck around.

this thread is about free markets asshole

[Cypress]

why do you pretend Capitalism can be unleashed and not create evils like child labor?


ITS HISTORICAL FACT

To be clear, I do not think most individual Republicans want eight year old boys and girls to work 16 hours a day in inhumane conditions. But that is exactly what would happen when the profit motive takes root in an under-regulated capitalist economy.

The point is that the free markets - capitalism - left to its own devices results in exploitation, cruelty, inhumanity, for the benefit of a select few.

The conservatives who worship at the altar of the free market, and the conservatives who ever want to eliminate regulations, who relentlessly holler the slogan "get the government out of the way!", apparently forget the history of capitalism.

In my opinion, if you want to live without a framework of regulation and taxes, you really should consider moving to Somalia.

[evince]

many who say it have no memory of the history teachers tried to tech them in school


There is NO CURE for an incurious mind


Many who spew it KNOW the facts they just lie to try and get what they want while thinking "fuck everyone else"

[evince]

https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Grover_Norquist




Grover Norquist (born October 19, 1956) is an American political advocate, who is founder and president of Americans for Tax Reform, an organization that opposes all tax increases.

"I don't want to abolish government. I simply want to reduce it to the size where I can drag it into the bathroom and drown it in the bathtub."
Interview on NPR's Morning Edition, May 25, 2001

[evince]

the right wants Democracy dead


they want a Parento world of the elite owning nearly everything and the 80% of the world to be living on slave wages

[cawacko]

Cypress, you regularly create this strawman when discussing capitalism that supporters want zero regulations. That's just flat out false to the point of being dishonest. Why do you feel the need to lie about what others believe?

Libertarians believe there is a role for government in the overseeing of the economy. It may not be to the level you would prefer but it doesn't mean they don't want government to exist.

[Cypress]

Cawacko, my writing is clearly very interesting to you, but I told you that I would never read or respond to you after you ran around the board falsely claiming I was a racist, without provocation, cause, or justification.

Bottom line is that Republicans have spent message board careers hollering for de-regulation, hollering for the roll back on the New Deal reforms, and claiming that the federal government has no role to play outside a conservative view of "enumerated rights".

If we followed that logic, we would revert to the cruel and inhumane capitalism that existed before FDR.

[evince]

conditions that brought about Unions demanded by American workers who were being abused by such a system

[evince]

Cypress, you regularly create this strawman when discussing capitalism that supporters want zero regulations. That's just flat out false to the point of being dishonest. Why do you feel the need to lie about what others believe?

Libertarians believe there is a role for government in the overseeing of the economy. It may not be to the level you would prefer but it doesn't mean they don't want government to exist.

that is what the quote said asshole

[evince]

https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Grover_Norquist




Grover Norquist (born October 19, 1956) is an American political advocate, who is founder and president of Americans for Tax Reform, an organization that opposes all tax increases.

"I don't want to abolish government. I simply want to reduce it to the size where I can drag it into the bathroom and drown it in the bathtub."
Interview on NPR's Morning Edition, May 25, 2001

this

[Cypress]

conditions that brought about Unions demanded by American workers who were being abused by such a system

I am the first one to say we should talk about the crimes of Stalin, Lenin, and other totalitarian communist dictators.

It is only reasonable, intellectually consistent, and introspective to also acknowledge the cruelty and inhumanity of capitalism, and to face the millions of death caused by a relentless quest for profit.

The guardian article I posted noted that the international slave trade was driven by capitalism and profit motive.

The atrocities by Belgian rubber companies in the Congo are reported to have resulted in five to ten million deaths of Africans.

I mean, the list goes on.

Conservatives are forever demanding that American liberals be held accountable for the crimes of Lenin and Stalin - a preposterous claim at face value.

But if we are even to entertain that claim, then conservatives need to answer for centuries of slavery, misery, inhumanity, and cruelty perpetrated by capitalists in the quest for profit and for the benefit of a select few.

[Nordberg]

Last Friday, during an event at Harvard, Republican presidential contender Newt Gingrich offered up a modest plan for alleviating poverty in the United States. It was time, he said, to relax our "truly stupid" child labor laws. In particular, schools should fire their unionized janitors, and hire children as young as nine to do the work instead. Per The New York Times:

Trump admin has already relaxed laws protecting child laborers. https://www.nelp.org/publication/tru...azardous-jobs/ Rightys will never understand that regulation protects workers from what ownership will gladly do to squeeze a couple bucks more in profits.When worker protection and worker rights were started, it was unions, workers fighting as one, who won those things and more. The companies beat and killed organizers . The company attitude has not changed and the need to fight as one for workers has also not alleviated.
You people who think Trump and the wealthy care about you are wrong. They are proving it every day.

[Cypress]

State child labor laws under attack

https://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...97#post2953197

In February, Missouri Republican State Senator Jane Cunningham introduced legislation, SB 222, that would all but repeal the child labor law in the state of Missouri, eliminating the prohibition on employment of children under age 14.

The Missouri legislation:
• removes the restrictions on the maxium number of hours and time of day during which a child may work;
• repeals the requirement that a child ages 14 or 15 obtain a work certificate or work permit in order to be employed;
• allows children under 16 to work in any capacity in a motel, resort, or hotel where sleeping accommodations are furnished; and,
• removes the authority of the director of the Division of Labor Standards to inspect employers who employ children and to require them to keep certain records for children they employ. It also repeals the presumption that the presence of a child in a workplace is evidence of employment.

Recently Maine has joined Missouri as states considering changes to child labor law. Proposed legislation in Maine—now under consideration in the state Senate—would extend hours for teen workers, allowing them to work 24 hours a week during the school year—instead of the current 20—and allowing them to work till 11:00 p.m. instead of the current 10:00 p.m.

A second law under consideration by the Maine legislature would eliminate any cap on the number of hours a 16-year-old may work on a school day. The bill, introduced by Representative David Burns (R – Whiting), would abolish minimum wage protections for high school students under 20 – limiting their income to just $5.25 per hour in the first six months.

https://www.nclnet.org/state_child_l...s_under_attack