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    Quote Originally Posted by Heff View Post
    Some people don't require the state to be their daddy. This idea is foreign to statists.
    so is economics to idiots like you who have no fucking idea what you are talking about

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heff View Post
    Some people don't require the state to be their daddy. This idea is foreign to statists.
    While what you are saying is certainly true, I don't even think that's the main point here. The main point is, here we have another leftist loon painting their false narrative, and disseminating their issued talking points/marching orders. The problem with liberals, is that they can never be honest. You can't even have an honest debate with them, because all they ever do is lie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    go check the number of times I have started a thread on this vey subject ass smear.


    Im discussing it


    you are avoiding it
    I don’t care how many threads you start on it. You still don’t understand what you link to

    If you understood these topics, you could intelligently discuss them without throwing around Wikipedia links. You can’t so you don’t. You are an uninformed idiot.

    As I have said before. It isn’t what you don’t know that makes you so dangerous. It is what you THINK you know that is wrong that makes you dangerous

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heff View Post
    You guys like to pretend your statism makes you compassionate, but really you want to hand off whatever little compassion you had to a state bureaucracy. You guys are human frauds.
    you are so fucking brain washed you want to be one of the 80% who are poverty slaves

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    Pareto proved what unfettered markets produce in an economy over 150 fucking years ago dude



    it makes 80% of the people poverty slaves
    Just with a cursory glance, it says nothing about him proving what "unfettered markets produce in an economy".
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    https://www.britannica.com/biography/Vilfredo-Pareto



    Pareto’s first work, Cours d’économie politique (1896–97), included his famous but much-criticized law of income distribution, a complicated mathematical formulation in which Pareto attempted to prove that the distribution of incomes and wealth in society is not random and that a consistent pattern appears throughout history, in all parts of the world and in all societies.
    In his Manuale d’economia politica (1906), his most influential work, he further developed his theory of pure economics and his analysis of ophelimity (power to give satisfaction). He laid the foundation of modern welfare economics with his concept of the so-called Pareto Optimum, stating that the optimum allocation of the resources of a society is not attained so long as it is possible to make at least one individual better off in his own estimation while keeping others as well off as before in their own estimation. He also introduced “curves of indifference,” analytic instruments that did not become popular until the 1930s.
    Believing that there were problems that economics could not solve, Pareto turned to sociology, writing what he considered his greatest work, Trattato di sociologia generale (1916; Mind and Society), in which he inquired into the nature and bases of individual and social action. Persons of superior ability, he argued, actively seek to confirm and aggrandize their social position. Thus, social classes are formed. In an effort to rise into the elite of the upper strata, privileged members of the lower-class groups continually strive to use their abilities and thus improve their opportunities; the opposite tendency is seen among the elite. As a result, the best-equipped persons from the lower class rise to challenge the position of the upper-class elite. There thus occurs a “circulation of elites.” Because of his theory of the superiority of the elite, Pareto sometimes has been associated with fascism. His concept of society as a social system had a strong impact on the development of sociology and theories of social action in the United States after World War II.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heff View Post
    Just with a cursory glance, it says nothing about him proving what "unfettered markets produce in an economy".
    how so

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    you are so fucking brain washed you want to be one of the 80% who are poverty slaves
    I'm already in the 20%, dear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    how so
    It says nothing about him proving what you claimed he proved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heff View Post
    It says nothing about him proving what you claimed he proved.
    prove how you are correct

    quote the work of his and pin point how it does not

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vilfredo_Pareto



    Benoît Mandelbrot wrote:
    One of Pareto's equations achieved special prominence, and controversy. He was fascinated by problems of power and wealth. How do people get it? How is it distributed around society? How do those who have it use it? The gulf between rich and poor has always been part of the human condition, but Pareto resolved to measure it. He gathered reams of data on wealth and income through different centuries, through different countries: the tax records of Basel, Switzerland, from 1454 and from Augsburg, Germany, in 1471, 1498 and 1512; contemporary rental income from Paris; personal income from Britain, Prussia, Saxony, Ireland, Italy, Peru. What he found – or thought he found – was striking. When he plotted the data on graph paper, with income on one axis, and number of people with that income on the other, he saw the same picture nearly everywhere in every era. Society was not a "social pyramid" with the proportion of rich to poor sloping gently from one class to the next. Instead it was more of a "social arrow" – very fat on the bottom where the mass of men live, and very thin at the top where sit the wealthy elite. Nor was this effect by chance; the data did not remotely fit a bell curve, as one would expect if wealth were distributed randomly. "It is a social law", he wrote: something "in the nature of man".[16]:153
    Pareto had argued that democracy was an illusion and that a ruling class always emerged and enriched itself. For him, the key question was how actively the rulers ruled. For this reason, he called for a drastic reduction of the state and welcomed Benito Mussolini's rule as a transition to this minimal state so as to liberate the "pure" economic forces.[17]
    he gathered massive world wide data on the subject of income distribution

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    prove how you are correct

    quote the work of his and pin point how it does not
    I'm not the one making the claim "Pareto proved what unfettered markets produce in an economy over 150 fucking years ago ". I'm just curious where it says that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heff View Post
    It says nothing about him proving what you claimed he proved.
    I just proved you lied


    he studied income distribution and gathered massive world wide data



    What did his analyzed data find?

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    Vilfredo Federico Damaso Pareto (/pəˈrɛtoʊ/; Italian: [vilˈfreːdo paˈreːto]; born Wilfried Fritz Pareto, 15 July 1848 – 19 August 1923)

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