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    Quote Originally Posted by Sailor View Post
    Feel free to look at all of them if you have a week or two of free time: https://www.google.com/search?client...ech+university
    I can't find any. I'm assuming you can't either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    I can't find any. I'm assuming you can't either.
    You cannot read? Or are you one of those shit or go blind people when faced with fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sailor View Post
    You cannot read? Or are you one of those shit or go blind people when faced with fact.
    I guess not. But if you can, surely you can give me a few names.

    Take your time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    I guess not. But if you can, surely you can give me a few names.

    Take your time.
    It is all in that link. Anyone with an IQ more than zero can see them all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TTQ64 View Post
    so in other words they have to let racist hate speech on campus?

    cool.....then there should be no backlash when the racist fucks get their ass whopped for starting riots and there should be no backlash when the people freely call the racist pigs what they are racist pigs.
    Hate speech (racist or not) is constitutionally protected. If it is a public university they are already restricted by the 1st Amendment and lawsuits by FIRE (Foundation for Individual Rights in Education) usually win when colleges restrict free speech, limit it to very small areas of campus, etc.

    Taking offense to somebody's speech is not justification for starting a riot and the person initiating the riot goes to jail for violence--not the person exercising his free speech rights. Calling someone a racist pig is protected speech.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sailor View Post
    To many of those "educated" people think Mr. Ed was real..........
    You think he wasn't? Take horse add peanut butter= Mr Ed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Beto Omar View Post
    Where does one even start with this lol?

    How about starting with a question: who gets to determine what is ‘hate speech’?
    The colleges and student organizations do so now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    You must be joking. SNL parodied every president since Ford, and they all took it without having hissy fits.
    Well yes, but this is more threatening because it's so fucking true and scathing to the core. Nobody has any respect for Trump whatsoever
    and SNL has an unlimited return humor salad bar every day Trump says or does anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sailor View Post
    It is all in that link. Anyone with an IQ more than zero can see them all.
    So why can't you give me some names?

    Ok, so let's be real here. You don't understand the difference between free speech and being given a platform. College campuses have free speech. You can say anything you want, as long as it isn't a threat, and the cops won't arrest you. However, the colleges themselves get to decide whether or not to give you a platform.

    This is what many on the Right seem to not understand.

    https://www.aclu.org/other/speech-campus

    Q: The First Amendment prevents the government from arresting people for what they say, but who says the Constitution guarantees speakers a platform on campus?

    A: The First Amendment does not require the government to provide a platform to anyone, but it does prohibit the government from discriminating against speech on the basis of the speaker’s viewpoint. For example, public colleges and universities have no obligation to fund student publications; however, the Supreme Court has held that if a public university voluntarily provides these funds, it cannot selectively withhold them from particular student publications simply because they advocate a controversial point of view.

    Of course, public colleges and universities are free to invite whomever they like to speak at commencement ceremonies or other events, just as students are free to protest speakers they find offensive. College administrators cannot, however, dictate which speakers students may invite to campus on their own initiative. If a college or university usually allows students to use campus resources (such as auditoriums) to entertain guests, the school cannot withdraw those resources simply because students have invited a controversial speaker to campus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by New! Imperialism and Genocide™ View Post
    Why can't we force colleges to host white supremacists and talks about genocide?

    Why don't we invite ISIS to the next conference to give their views? Why should ISIS's free speech be suppressed? American adherents to ISIS's ideology are citizens just like any others and have the right to spread their message of terrorism, just like white supremacists. This is what the founders intended.
    ISIS has the same free speech rights as anyone else. That doesn't mean you have to invite them to speak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CosmicRocker View Post
    HRC would have condemned your house. she was all ready to extend the Regulation Nation.
    Thankfully Trump has stripped out about 50k regs! and has a rule that for any1 new reg 2 have to go.

    WOTUS was DC fascism
    The executive order about free speech added a lot of unnecessary and unenforceable regulations. The Justice Department (or state governments) should just sue public colleges that abridge free speech--much simpler and effective without adding new regulations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    C,mon, when you were going to school, you were not forced to listen to David Duke. He was allowed to speak. You do not have to go. Why is it a big deal? I am not sure speakers made money back in the 60s and 70s.
    Now if that cannot draw an audience, they will not come back.
    The cost of security is a big deal to universities.
    Colter gets 20 to 50 K for a speech, but security more than doubles the cost. And her flamethrowing speeches do not bring honor to the school.
    The security costs are terrible, but they are due to those who wish to suppress the free speech of those they disagree with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    Did anyone tell Trump that we already have free speech on college campuses?
    I don't like his regulations, but many public colleges do try to restrict free speech by excluding certain types, limiting speech to certain areas..........

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    Have any people been arrested on a college campus for something they said?
    Violations of speech codes usually involve school policies and not criminal laws. Criminal violations usually involve trespassing by non-students or being in non-free speech areas.

    Some of the speech codes prohibit: "eye contact or lack thereof," and banned words include snowman, "blind leading the blind," polo, "past one's prime," "old wive's tale," Founding Fathers, drunken or drunkenness, insane, Man of War, huts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    Ok, so let's be real here. You don't understand the difference between free speech and being given a platform. College campuses have free speech. You can say anything you want, as long as it isn't a threat, and the cops won't arrest you. However, the colleges themselves get to decide whether or not to give you a platform.
    Colleges don't have to provide a platform, but in open public areas such as parks people are free to make speeches about their political views. That concept also applies to areas on college campus but some schools have limited that speech (including tables distributing literature) to very small areas of the campus that are away from most student traffic.

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