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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    the rest of the scientists deny her "claims"

    she isn't the source of facts idiot
    You're a complete fucking lunatic, shit for brains.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CFM View Post
    I thought Liberals claimed they'd be gone if something wasn't done about global warming.
    They are. These are White Walker polar bears. You can tell by the blue icy eyes.
    "Those who vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything." Joseph Stalin
    The USA has lost WWIV to China with no other weapons but China Virus and some cash to buy democrats.

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    Check her out on Wiki. She's notorious.
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    We don't know what happened after that . "

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    Quote Originally Posted by volsrock View Post
    Liberals apparently chose the polar bear as a poster child for global warming because the bears are considered cute, although no one who had a close encounter with a polar bear would describe it that way. Why global warming would be harmful to polar bears was never persuasively explained, nor was there any explanation of how the bears had survived many climatic changes over hundreds of thousands of years. In any event, it’s time to call the whole thing off. Polar bears are thriving:

    Polar bear numbers could easily exceed 40,000, up from a low point of 10,000 or fewer in the 1960s.


    Crockford also describes how, despite the good news, polar bear specialists have consistently tried to low-ball polar bear population figures.

    They have also engaged in a relentless smear campaign in an attempt to silence her in order to protect the story of a polar bear catastrophe, and the funding that comes with it. *** For the first time, you’ll see [in Crockford’s book] a frank and detailed account of attempts by scientists to conceal population growth as numbers rose from an historical low in the 1960s to the astonishing highs that surely must exist after almost 50 years of protection from overhunting. There is also a blunt account of what truly abundant populations of bears mean for the millions of people who live and work in areas of the Arctic inhabited by polar bears.

    https://www.powerlineblog.com/archiv...ns-booming.php
    Now that the ice is melting, it's gotten easier for polar bears to catch seals, which is why the polar bear population is growing.
    And let's try to stop politicizing everything. You don't have to be a Liberal to be concerned about the environment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superfreak View Post
    what is truly funny is that the number of stations throughout the world has actually DECREASED over the past 30 years. Despite them telling us how urgent things are. Odd pattern deciding which stations got shut down. Most are in colder climates.

    Also, the fewer the stations... the easier it is for them to extrapolate the data using 'adjustments' that help them tweak data to what they want it to say.
    Yup... There are many issues with how these twits are 'determining' the global temperature...

    First, we need to know how many thermometers (stations) are being used. I believe NASA uses around 7,500 of them.

    Second, these stations (for statistical analysis purposes) MUST be uniformly spaced [to avoid location bias]. These stations are NOT uniformly spaced...

    Third, these stations (for statistical analysis purposes) MUST all be simultaneously read by the same observer [to avoid time bias]. I don't believe that the NASA stations are read in this manner.

    BUT, for the sake of these twits, let's just ASSUME that those thermometers WERE uniformly spaced AND simultaneously read... Then, one needs more information... There needs to be a variance declared... In regard to temperature, it has been observed to vary by as much as 20deg F per MILE, and vary by as much as 49deg F per TWO MINUTES. The possible range of temperatures has been observed to be 262deg F (from -128deg F up to 134deg F)... Since the Earth's surface area is about 197 million sq miles, the use of 7,500 thermometers would equate to approx. one thermometer for every 26,266 sq miles (or an area roughly the size of West Virginia)... Do you think that a single thermometer could accurately measure the temperature of anywhere within an area the size of West Virginia?? Yeah, no...

    To get the margin of error down to +-10deg F would require around 200 million thermometers... (which would get you within the 20deg F per MILE variance)...


    Yet, these twits want to tell me that they know the Earth is warming...

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    Quote Originally Posted by gfm7175 View Post


    Yet, these twits want to tell me that they know the Earth is warming...
    Don't flatter yourself- it looks silly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    Now that the ice is melting, it's gotten easier for polar bears to catch seals, which is why the polar bear population is growing.
    And let's try to stop politicizing everything. You don't have to be a Liberal to be concerned about the environment.
    ice stable over past 12 years

    Just 10 years ago a number of “experts” predicted that the Arctic sea ice would disappear in late summer by now. Today we see that Arctic sea ice has since stabilized and there has been no decrease in 12 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    Not a credible link.

    It is a rightwing blog. Not a reputable scientific source.
    Counting bear populations isn't science. It's census.

    The World Wildlife Fund keeps track of polar bear counts from various countries. The nation with the most data is of course Canada. Their data indicates that polar bear populations in Canada are either stable or increasing. Most places don't count polar bears, so the data is unknown. The only region indicating a decrease in polar bear population are some sections of Alaska (not all). Apparently these bears moved to Canada?

    For the populations we DO know about, there doesn't seem to be a problem with polar bears decreasing in number overall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NiftyNiblick View Post
    The poor creatures are wandering into Alaskan towns because their own areas have been depleted by global warning.
    Polar bears have always wandered into Alaskan towns. There's food there. You know, garbage cans and the like. Grizzly bears have wandered in to Alaskan towns as well. All bears do this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polar_...ies_protection



    Controversy over species protection



    Warnings about the future of the polar bear are often contrasted with the fact that worldwide population estimates have increased over the past 50 years and are relatively stable today.[198][199] Some estimates of the global population are around 5,000 to 10,000 in the early 1970s;[200] other estimates were 20,000 to 40,000 during the 1980s.[46][60] Current estimates put the global population at between 20,000 and 25,000[38] or 22,000 and 31,000.[2]
    There are several reasons for the apparent discordance between past and projected population trends: estimates from the 1950s and 1960s were based on stories from explorers and hunters rather than on scientific surveys.[201][202][203][204] Second, controls of harvesting were introduced that allowed this previously overhunted species to recover.[201] Third, the recent effects of climate change have affected sea ice abundance in different areas to varying degrees.[201]
    Debate over the listing of the polar bear under endangered species legislation has put conservation groups and Canada's Inuit at opposing positions;[41] the Nunavut government and many northern residents have condemned the U.S. initiative to list the polar bear under the Endangered Species Act.[205][206] Many Inuit believe the polar bear population is increasing, and restrictions on commercial sport-hunting are likely to lead to a loss of income to their communities.
    There is no trend. There is only data, if there is data at all. We don't have a lot of data on polar bears.

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    A blog is worthless.
    Guess that makes anything said on this forum worthless as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moon View Post
    Don't flatter yourself- it looks silly.
    Care to address ANY bit of my argument there???

    Oh wait, you're a fundamentalist Church of Global Warming member... You deny mathematics as well as logic and science...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    ice stable over past 12 years

    Just 10 years ago a number of “experts” predicted that the Arctic sea ice would disappear in late summer by now. Today we see that Arctic sea ice has since stabilized and there has been no decrease in 12 years.

    Stupid evil liar lying again

    https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/wo...-change/SeaIce

    Just read

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    parroting?
    That IS what he said. While I normally like parrots, I do not like this particular breed.
    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    you mean citing facts?
    You mean the 'facts' that you parrot? Where are you getting your 'facts'?
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    eat shit and don't die super duper
    Oooo. An insult. Don't you feel threatened now, Superfreak?
    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    Bush crashed the economy with your idiot right wing economic ideas
    Bush is not a conservative, though he ran under the Republican party. Much of what he did is quite liberal, and even unconstitutional. To be fair, though, it wasn't Bush Jr that caused the crash of 2008. It was the Fed, and policies implemented by the Clinton administration that took a few years to come to fruition.
    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    why should anyone care what you say asshole
    Because what he might make a valid argument. Bulverism fallacy.

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    Do they fart, too?
    Only after eating Eskimo.....

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