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    Cool Al Franken's response to Trump's comments on McCain

    This was posted on Al Franken's FB account today:


    Former U.S. Senator Al Franken


    Pretty much everyone agrees that right after someone dies, it’s very bad form to say something bad about them. That’s why it’s admirable that Donald Trump waited a full seven months to say horrible things about John McCain.

    First of all, and I know most Americans feel this way, it’s a disgrace that McCain allowed his plane to get shot down, broke both his arms and a leg ejecting from the plane, and then was beaten and bayonetted by North Vietnamese before being dragged to a POW camp, where he was starved and tortured for five-and-a-half years. As far as Trump is concerned, McCain sat out the war.

    Yes, it’s seems heroic that after his father was named commander of U.S. forces in the Pacific, McCain refused his captors’ offer of early release. McCain claimed he refused because the early release of the admiral’s son would be a huge propaganda victory for Hanoi and demoralize his fellow American POWs. But how do we really know that? Other than that’s what all the other POW’s who were there with him say, and also that there seems to be no other explanation?

    Why in God’s name is Donald Trump so obsessed with John McCain that he feels the need to attack him even when he’s dead? I mean other than that John McCain is kind of a perfect example of everything Trump is not?

    I usually don’t like bullet points, but here goes.
    - Endured tremendous pain for his country vs. venereal disease was his personal Vietnam*
    - Told a nut that Obama wasn’t a Muslim vs. Told every nut that Obama was a Muslim
    - Graduated last in his class at the Naval Academy vs. Probably graduated last in his class at Penn, but we’ll never know because Trump goon Matty Calamari visited the registrar. “Nice university you got here. Be a shame to see whoever keeps the records get roughed up. Capiche?”
    - Hated tyrants vs. Loves, loves, loves tyrants!
    - Tortured vs. Tortured
    - Student of foreign affairs vs. Affairs
    - Laughed a lot vs. Is “The Man Who Never Laughed”

    I have never seen Donald Trump laugh. Have you? In fact, I think that would make a good children’s book. In the story, Ivanka would offer a prize to any American who could make her father, the President, laugh. The prize would be the most valuable Trump property the family owns! (The Trumps would double its value on paper, take a huge write-off, sticking the winner with an enormous tax bill.) Americans would line up outside the White House during executive time – comedians, mimes. magicians, storytellers, contortionists, acrobats, jugglers, impressionists – but no one could get the President to laugh. I even got an illustrator for the book. I can’t think of an ending.

    Humor was another great thing about John McCain. He loved to laugh. A few years ago, John and I were asked to tape an opening before a Vikings-Cardinals game for Thursday Night Football. They put us in a Face the Nation set with former host, Bob Schieffer, interviewing us. John was fine with the script, but I wasn’t and started rewriting. John saw me scribbling away and said, “Hey, do I get to see it?”

    I finished up and ran it over to him. He read it, chuckled, and gave me the thumbs up. We started with the usual generous collegial niceties, “Well, I disagree with my good friend about the Vikings running game…” and “John and I are very good friends, but Arizona’s secondary...” “My very good friend” turned into “my very dear friend” which became “my very close dear friend” which became “my extremely close dear friend” and then to me saying, “Yes. John and I are extremely close dear, dear friends. In fact, our families vacation together.”

    Schieffer gave us an astonished look. “Your families vacation together?!”

    “That’s right,” John deadpanned to Bob, then turned to me slightly miffed, “You know it wouldn’t hurt for you to pick up a check every once in a while!”

    John and I shared a somewhat dark sense of humor. After he was diagnosed with brain cancer, John continued to come back and forth between DC and Arizona. When I thought it might his last time in DC, I went up to John and said, “Say, John, I thought I’d send you a ‘Bad News – Good News’ joke every week or so.”

    He laughed and said he’d look forward to that.

    A week or so later, Ron Johnson of Wisconsin speculated on a radio show that McCain had given his famous thumbs down on the Republican health care bill because he was confused from his brain cancer. I wrote John: “The bad news is that you have brain cancer. The good news is that Ron Johnson’s butt cancer has moved to his mouth.”

    Every once in a while, I’d switch things up and send John a ‘Good News – Bad News’ joke. His favorite was: “The good news is that your mother is 105 and sharp as a tack. The bad news is that you have brain cancer.”

    Fortunately, John came back to DC one more time. When he saw me in the well on the Senate floor, he grinned and put his arm around me, announcing to the Senators around us, “This man earned every dollar he ever got. At Saturday Night Live!”

    Maybe that’s why Trump also attacked Saturday Night Live this week. Maybe he has a point. Sure, the show has made fun of every president since Nixon. But the only one SNL actually treated with complete contempt has been Donald Trump.

    And Nixon.

    * May 7, 1998 interview with Howard Stern, discussing the dangers of dating.
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    Poor Trump couldn't servehe had a bone spur!
    And was chickenshit
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    Right on, Al Franken!
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    If those crippling bone spurs did not stop him. trump would have ended the war singlehandedly. He was tough enough to have ended the Stoneman shooting if he was there and even if he did not have a gun. That's how tough Trump says he is.

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    fuck the war and stuff the Corps

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    If those crippling bone spurs did not stop him. trump would have ended the war singlehandedly. He was tough enough to have ended the Stoneman shooting if he was there and even if he did not have a gun. That's how tough Trump says he is.
    He would have run in and stopped the shooting!But he was eating a bucket of KFC!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourbon View Post
    This was posted on Al Franken's FB account today:

    Former U.S. Senator Al Franken
    I highlighted my favorite part of this post. No one gives two shits what you, or Al or any other repugnant, whiny, lying leftist loser has to say about Trump and McCain.

    McCain was a two faced loser and a liar who was no friend of the President or this Republic. McCain was in love with himself however.

    But hey, I get it. As the information about how sleazy department apparatchiks in the JD were and how they were using FAKE dossiers to SPY on an opposing campaign comes out, you need to deflect and pretend that you all cared about a man you denigrated until you loved him for being a neverTrumper.

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    I have never seen Donald Trump laugh. Have you?
    I was wondering if it was just me noticing that.

    There is something positively reptilian and unhuman about Trump. He never laughs, he never says anything genuinely funny, he doesn't seem like he has any genuine fun, and he does not exude any genuine human amiability, cheerfulness, or humour. The only genuine human emotions that seem to come from him are resentment, arrogance, petulance, grievance, anger, rage.

    The only other president I am aware of who seemed as reptilian and inhumane as Trump was Tricky Dick Nixon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MASON View Post
    Poor Trump couldn't servehe had a bone spur!
    And was chickenshit
    Do you remember what BillyBob's excuse was? Did Obama serve? What did Bernie Sanders do?

    I have to laugh at the Party of Vietnam haters and their desperate flailing when it comes to Trump.

    Trump had an affair with Stormy they scream; but were okay when BillyBob was banging interns in the White House.

    Trump didn't serve in Vietnam!!! Bush didn't serve either!!!! But they were fine with BillyBob's deferments.

    You leftist hypocrites really need to just STFU. It isn't working well for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    If those crippling bone spurs did not stop him. trump would have ended the war singlehandedly. He was tough enough to have ended the Stoneman shooting if he was there and even if he did not have a gun. That's how tough Trump says he is.
    Absurdity; a sure sign of the last desperate refuge for liars, fools and ignorance; and those who have lost their arguments. Yay you!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MASON View Post
    He would have run in and stopped the shooting!But he was eating a bucket of KFC!
    Absurdity; a sure sign of the last desperate refuge for liars, fools and ignorance; and those who have lost their arguments. Yay you!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    Do you remember what BillyBob's excuse was? Did Obama serve? What did Bernie Sanders do?

    I have to laugh at the Party of Vietnam haters and their desperate flailing when it comes to Trump.

    Trump had an affair with Stormy they scream; but were okay when BillyBob was banging interns in the White House.

    Trump didn't serve in Vietnam!!! Bush didn't serve either!!!! But they were fine with BillyBob's deferments.

    You leftist hypocrites really need to just STFU. It isn't working well for you.
    Typical deflection,to defend a chickenshit
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    I was wondering if it was just me noticing that.

    There is something positively reptilian and unhuman about Trump. He never laughs, he never says anything genuinely funny, he doesn't seem like he has any genuine fun, and he does not exude any genuine human amiability, cheerfulness, or humour. The only genuine human emotions that seem to come from him are resentment, arrogance, petulance, grievance, anger, rage.

    The only other president I am aware of who seemed as reptilian and inhumane as Trump was Tricky Dick Nixon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    Absurdity; a sure sign of the last desperate refuge for liars, fools and ignorance; and those who have lost their arguments. Yay you!
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