Demagogues are all the same generation after generation... and people don't get any smarter.
https://www.newsweek.com/difference-...magogue-387257
Demagogues are all the same generation after generation... and people don't get any smarter.
https://www.newsweek.com/difference-...magogue-387257
He who is the author of a war lets loose the whole contagion of hell and opens a vein that bleeds a nation to death. Thomas Paine
Earl (03-22-2019)
Lots of folks are aware ofHitler's "monority support" before he took over, but not a lot recall Wall Streets part in Hitler's rise to power. Jst to catch you up, in the 1924 elections, the Nazi Party got 6% of the vote. Hitler went on a speaking tour for the next 4 years, know ans HITLER IN THE AIR, spoke at hundreds of rallies, kissed hundreds of babies, and pushed his ultra-Nationalist "stab-in-th-back" explanation for Germany's loss in WWI and of course his unending blame of minorities for Germany's problems. Then in 1928 Germany was well on its way to total recovery from the disastrous World War, and the Nazis got TWO percent of the popular vote. Then in 1929, Republican deregulation of Wall Street and the Banks led to a financial collapse and American banks called in the billions they had loaned Germany to finance their recovery causing the German economy to collapse as well. In 1930. a special election was held, and Nazis got 30% of the vote and became a major political force in Germany.. Noting promotes nazi-style Ultranationalism and persecution of minorities like a good economic disaster, andthe Republicans created one in 2008 that rivaled their effort in 1929. Instead of Jews, Trump is using non-white immigrants as his whipping boy, and his followers love it, never once considering that it was their BOSS and not some impoverished Mexican immigrant who took away their job.
Earl (03-22-2019)
Hitler was elected within the perimeters of their government with 90% plebiscite vote . The never policy that Hitler was elected democratically is nonsense. He was made Chancellor because at that point he could consolidate a majority. He was elected President because he could consolidate a majority. No different then how our Nazi leader got elected.
37% of the vote.
Democracy elected Hitler to power - Huppi
Summary
Hitler never had more than 37 percent of the popular vote in the honest elections that occurred before he became Chancellor. And the opposition among the 63 percent against him was generally quite strong. Hitler therefore would have never seen the light of day had the German Republic been truly democratic.
Unfortunately, its otherwise sound constitution contained a few fatal flaws. The German leaders also had a weak devotion to democracy, and some were actively plotting to overthrow it. Hitler furthermore enjoyed an almost unbroken string of luck in coming to power. He benefited greatly from the Great Depression, the half-senility of the president, the incompetence of his opposition, and the appearance of an unnecessary backroom deal just as the Nazis were starting to lose popular appeal and votes.
http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-hitlerdemo.htm
He who is the author of a war lets loose the whole contagion of hell and opens a vein that bleeds a nation to death. Thomas Paine
You guys have been calling Trump a dictator since he started running. Of course, as is always the case with your fevered imaginations, it turned out to be false. But if he was, like you guys have always claimed, then he would be the best damned dictator the world has ever seen.
The anti-Trumper's new mantra:
“B-b-but muh White supremacy”
Nordberg (03-21-2019)
37% of the vote.
MYTH: Democracy elected Hitler to power - Huppi
Summary
Hitler never had more than 37 percent of the popular vote in the honest elections that occurred before he became Chancellor. And the opposition among the 63 percent against him was generally quite strong. Hitler therefore would have never seen the light of day had the German Republic been truly democratic.
Unfortunately, its otherwise sound constitution contained a few fatal flaws. The German leaders also had a weak devotion to democracy, and some were actively plotting to overthrow it. Hitler furthermore enjoyed an almost unbroken string of luck in coming to power. He benefited greatly from the Great Depression, the half-senility of the president, the incompetence of his opposition, and the appearance of an unnecessary backroom deal just as the Nazis were starting to lose popular appeal and votes.
http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-hitlerdemo.htm
He who is the author of a war lets loose the whole contagion of hell and opens a vein that bleeds a nation to death. Thomas Paine
Earl (03-22-2019)
kudzu (03-21-2019)
You need to do a little more studying my friend because what I said is 100% true, he was elected In a plebiscite as their government subscribed. by I'm not talking about a popular vote even though the way it was set up in Germany ,37% could win the election if it was the highest percentage ,you needed no majority in Germany at the time.Your number was from a presidential election in 32 but your conveniently leaving out the presidential election is 33 Hindenburg dissolved the legislature and forcing a new vote , something that you seem to just ignore. Using anti-Communist hysteria to their advantage, on election day, March 6, 1933, the Nazis increased their result to 44% of the vote, making them the largest party in Germany,
Earl (03-22-2019)
Did you read the whole article or just the summary?
The combination of political terror and state-run propaganda gave the Nazis their best election result yet. On March 5, 1933, the Nazis won 44 percent of the vote -- but still not a majority. The Nazis also secured 288 seats in the makeshift parliament -- again, still not a majority. Along with the 52 seats of the Nationalists, however, their coalition had obtained a majority of 16 seats. Yet Hitler now had a new goal: to obtain the two-thirds majority required to alter the constitution and give him dictatorial powers. He needed only 31 non-Nazi votes to get it.
Hitler planned on doing this by passing a bill entitled the "Enabling Act." It would transfer power from the Reichstag to the Reich cabinet for four years, including the power of legislation, budget, approval of treaties and initiation of constitutional amendments. The laws enacted by the cabinet would be drafted by the Chancellor and "might deviate from the constitution." In voting for it, the Reichstag would essentially be dissolving itself and making Hitler dictator.
In attempting to secure the votes, the Nazis made heavy use of terror, blackmail and empty promises. The Social Democrats adamantly refused to vote for the Enabling Act, but Hitler was able to win crucial support from the Catholic Center party, by lying to them about future concessions. On March 23, 1933, the Enabling Act came up for a vote. Nazi storm troopers encircled the Reichstag, and legislators had to pass through a ring of tough-looking, black-shirted Nazi thugs to enter the building. While legislators considered the vote, they could hear the storm troopers outside chanting:
He who is the author of a war lets loose the whole contagion of hell and opens a vein that bleeds a nation to death. Thomas Paine
You think this really needs a retort. The name does not mean anything,Yep.....just "grins and giggles". Now can I interest you in some ocean front property in Ks.?
QUESTION? Just for grins and giggles. "IF" the name does not mean anything why did you choose the title of this thread, "Welcome to Germany, 1932 America, Trump NAZIS.....?"
Are all lefty fascists as brain dead as you? If the NAZIS did not take control of all capital and industry......then Trump will not? There fixed it.....you were just being paranoid, your own logic and reason fixed it for ya......that Trump is OK just like the NAZIS.
Last edited by Ralph; 03-22-2019 at 06:38 AM.
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