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    Default BADLY WORDED POLL ? yields FALSE results re Mueller 'WITCHHUNT (Pres & JPP quotes it)


    It was a Suffolk poll (frankly, I don't know their credibility--partisan or BAD 'writers'?). Below is how the POLL QUESTION was written, strung together. It should have been 2 QUESTIONS with 2 opportunities for respondents to answer. It was bound to yield shit results. Apparently Trump glommed on to it. So did a board member and it is still running. (Too stupid to know the difference or knew full well??)

    I personally heard it read yesterday 'on the TV' and cringed. (I've had no courses in constructing poll questions). Too stupid to know the difference, bad editing or was Suffolk creating a 'push question'? As for the poster who put it up, we know their MO.

    “President Trump has called the Special Counsel’s investigation a ‘witch hunt’
    and said he’s been subjected to more investigations than previous presidents because of politics.
    Do you agree?”


    This happens to be VOX who says the poll is an outlier of others that Mueller's need to conduct the inquiry and it's fairness. That's certainly borne out by the many polls.

    Trump uses bad poll question to claim half of America thinks Mueller’s on a “witch hunt”


    The president capitalizes on a poorly framed question in an outlier poll.

    By Aaron Rupar@atrupar Mar 18, 2019, 5:00pm EDT

    President Donald Trump trumpeted a new Suffolk/USA Today poll on Monday that he says shows half of America believing that special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation is a “witch hunt.”
    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump


    Wow! A Suffolk/USA Today Poll, just out, states, “50% of Americans AGREE that Robert Mueller’s investigation is a Witch Hunt.” @MSNBC Very few think it is legit! We will soon find out?

    If true, that finding suggests Trump’s regular, repetitive attacks on the special counsel are working.

    It would also indicate anti-Mueller sentiment has significantly increased since December, when an NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist poll found that only 33 percent of American adults viewed Mueller’s investigation as a “witch hunt,” compared to 54 percent who viewed it as a fair investigation.

    It turns out, however, that Trump’s tweet was based on a poorly framed poll question and an even more poorly framed USA Today story about it that’s headlined: “Poll: Half of Americans say Trump is victim of a ‘witch hunt’ as trust in Mueller erodes.”

    But the poll question on which that headline rests is seriously flawed. The question reads as follows: “President Trump has called the Special Counsel’s investigation a ‘witch hunt’ and said he’s been subjected to more investigations than previous presidents because of politics. Do you agree?”

    It’s true that 50.3 percent of the poll’s 1,000 respondents said “yes” to that question. But that doesn’t necessarily mean they believe the Mueller investigation is a “witch hunt.” The prompt packs two different questions into one — a poor strategy for a poll question. Respondents simply may have meant to agree that Trump has been “subjected to more investigations than previous presidents because of politics” — a controversial but defensible position — without intending to go further and indicate they think Trump is the victim of a “witch hunt.”

    Of course, Trump is not big on nuances, especially when it comes to polls that can be spun favorably for him or stories he can use to exonerate himself of Russia-related wrongdoing. Just last Friday, for instance, he falsely told reporters during a White House event that it “was proven” during Paul Manafort’s sentencing hearing earlier in the day that he didn’t collude with Russia. In fact, all the judge said was that the question of whether Trump’s campaign “conspired or colluded” with Russia “was not presented in this case.”...

    https://www.vox.com/2019/3/18/182714...ler-witch-hunt



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    Don't know the history of SUFFOLK to know if this was just a badly worded poll question or a 'push poll' type question...

    push poll

    noun


    • an ostensible opinion poll in which the true objective is to sway voters using loaded or manipulative questions.


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    WK2 4/5-/13 _Cases 555k--Dead 22.1K Lethality 3.9%
    WK3 4/20-/21 Cases 774k -Dead 37.2K Lethality 4.8%
    WK4 4/22-/29 Cases 1M --Dead 58.8K Lethality 5.9%
    WK5 5/1-/8__ Cases 1.3M -Dead 75.7K Lethality 6.1%
    WK6 5/9-16__Cases 1.4M --Dead 85.8K Lethality 6.1%
    WK7 5/17-24_Cases 1.7M - Dead 97.6K Lethality 5.9%
    WK8 5/28 Cases 1.7M - DEAD 101.2K - Same

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