Is Elite College Worth It? Maybe Not

[Cypress]

Because it has the word Liberal in it..that's how dumb and shallow they are.

Sounds plausible.

On a related tangent, you know which message boarders are the most likely to complain about the horrors of "liberal indoctrination" being conducted on students at universities?

Yep, that's right. The ones doing the most complaining are the ones that never went to college, or even set foot in a college classroom.

[cawacko]

Actually the word liberal (or conservative) is not used in the article so not sure where that is coming from. The whole discussion/research over the benefits of elite schools has nothing to do with ones political leanings.

[archives]

Actually the word liberal (or conservative) is not used in the article so not sure where that is coming from. The whole discussion/research over the benefits of elite schools has nothing to do with ones political leanings.

Hey, you got 211 responses on an actual topic without it shrinking into personal insults, that in self is an accomplishment

Resenting an imaginary "elite" entity is part of some conservative thought, political leanings on some levels does have a relevance, just the name "Harvard" create stereotypes in many conservative circles

[cawacko]

Hey, you got 211 responses on an actual topic without it shrinking into personal insults, that in self is an accomplishment

Resenting an imaginary "elite" entity is part of some conservative thought, political leanings on some levels does have a relevance, just the name "Harvard" create stereotypes in many conservative circles

Harvard creates stereotypes in liberal circles as well. It's why so many people want to go there. It's associated with being the best (now getting into Harvard doesn't make one a better person than someone else).

The whole premise is this desire to get into the top schools and is it really worth it. That's what the economists quoted in the article discuss.

[LV426]

That's what the economists quoted in the article discuss.

But that's not what you wanted to talk about, though.

You wanted to talk about degree programs, a topic not mentioned in your Op-Ed.

So when we did discuss it, you got whiny, screechy, and bitchy, claiming that I misrepresented you by quoting you directly.

[TTQ64]

Sounds plausible.

On a related tangent, you know which message boarders are the most likely to complain about the horrors of "liberal indoctrination" being conducted on students at universities?

Yep, that's right. The ones doing the most complaining are the ones that never went to college, or even set foot in a college classroom.

Let's see, would rather be "indoctrinated" by a "liberal professor" or rush limpballs?

rolling my eyes...…..

[Cypress]

Let's see, would rather be "indoctrinated" by a "liberal professor" or rush limpballs?

rolling my eyes...…..

I was in college for 8+ years, and I never really saw these horrific liberal indoctrination experiments going on in class rooms.

Maybe I was just in the wrong classes!

[TTQ64]

I was in college for 6+ years, and I never really saw these horrific liberal indoctrination experiments going on in class rooms.

Maybe I was just in the wrong classes!

It's right wing rhetoric. There is no such thing as liberal indoctrination, if that's the case then all education is liberal...….which makes sense since the racist right never wanted Blacks educated anyway. I can see the correlation of why they call it liberal and why they demonize education.

They demonize anything that gets in the way of white privilege.

[anonymoose]

Op-ed from some dude at the WaPo who went to Harvard arguing the need for over concerned parents to relax about where their kids go to school. As a new parent I'm all gung ho that my daughter only go to the best schools. Of course that doesn't necessarily mean it's the right fit for her.

For those of you who have raised your kids how "stressed" did you get over them getting into the best schools?

Not at all.

Having been through the heartbreak of getting a "good" education and then the heartbreak of starting a business I understand completely that a good education is just a start. I doesn't guarantee anything.
I started with what seemed at the time an insurmountable amount of student loans and it took well over a decade for me to be in the black financially.

[archives]

I was in college for 8+ years, and I never really saw these horrific liberal indoctrination experiments going on in class rooms.

Maybe I was just in the wrong classes!

8+ years? How did you swing that one? Must have been living on cheap wine and cheese

In all these discussions I always wondered if a Liberal Education is supposedly an entity there must be an antithesis, so what exactly is a Conservative Education?

[LV426]

In all these discussions I always wondered if a Liberal Education is supposedly an entity there must be an antithesis, so what exactly is a Conservative Education?

Conservative education is sticking your hand into the rotating blades of a lawnmower.

[LV426]

so what exactly is a Conservative Education?

Fables from a book commissioned by a 17th Century English King from Scotland.

[anonymoose]

As a new parent I'm all gung ho that my daughter only go to the best schools. Of course that doesn't necessarily mean it's the right fit for her.

With all due respect, that appears to be contradictory statements.

[anonymoose]

Dear Lori Loughlin and Felicity Huffman: You wasted your money

Agreed. Growing up in New Orleans I knew a fair number of "rich" kids that went to elite Northeast private colleges.
One went to Haverford, majored in history, then went to University of New Orleans, a commuter public college to get his med school requirements.
Now a career Navy doctor. Now what exactly did Haverford do for him?

Another went to Hampton-Sydney, got a degree in economics. His first job was a bank teller in New Orleans. Now is a city employee. What did Hampton-Sydney do for him?


Another went to Cornell, got a degree in hotel management or something like that. His father owned a hotel in New Orleans but went bankrupt.
He now sells real estate, but in a city which is overwhelmingly black, nobody cares where he went to college.


The only real difference in where one went to school I saw in New Orleans is what law school one went to. And that would be LSU, Tulane or Loyola.

Since about every other white male adult in New Orleans is a lawyer I guess that makes a difference.

What does make a difference is what h.s. one went to. No doubt a kid gets a higher quality of education in a private prep school. It's basically child neglect to send your kid to a public school there.

[Nordberg]

You need college to get in the door. It is a requirement for most jobs. If they hire you, they will teach you how to do the job. School really does not do that. You have shown you have the ability to learn and enough follow up to complete college.