Page 22 of 26 FirstFirst ... 12181920212223242526 LastLast
Results 316 to 330 of 376

Thread: What part of Christianity isn't compatible with the US Constitution...

  1. #316 | Top
    Join Date
    Sep 2018
    Location
    Southern California
    Posts
    114
    Thanks
    81
    Thanked 56 Times in 41 Posts
    Groans
    1
    Groaned 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Soul View Post
    ...or anything that relates to freedom?

    And, how many libs here think this?
    I don't think mainstream Christianity as a whole is incompatible with the Constitution, and I am a liberal.

    I DO however, recognize that the Christian Dominionist/Reconstructionist sects are 100 percent hostile toward republican constitutional representative democracy.
    But that's because their religious dogma supports the concept of a global theocracy, not because of anything in the Constitution.
    If there's any hostility, it's not from the founders, it's from the fundamentalist extremists.

    But don't take my word for it. It's not a secret.
    "The Left ones think I'm Right, the Right ones think I'm wrong."
    Leon Russell - "Magic Mirror"

  2. #317 | Top
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Location
    The Blue Ridge
    Posts
    37,741
    Thanks
    21,918
    Thanked 12,581 Times in 9,703 Posts
    Groans
    4,312
    Groaned 1,312 Times in 1,210 Posts
    Blog Entries
    1

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Checkerboard Strangler View Post
    I don't think mainstream Christianity as a whole is incompatible with the Constitution, and I am a liberal.

    I DO however, recognize that the Christian Dominionist/Reconstructionist sects are 100 percent hostile toward republican constitutional representative democracy.
    But that's because their religious dogma supports the concept of a global theocracy, not because of anything in the Constitution.
    If there's any hostility, it's not from the founders, it's from the fundamentalist extremists.
    Then we have no disagreement.

  3. #318 | Top
    Join Date
    Sep 2018
    Location
    Southern California
    Posts
    114
    Thanks
    81
    Thanked 56 Times in 41 Posts
    Groans
    1
    Groaned 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Soul View Post
    What part of Christianity requires or favors an established state religion?
    In mainstream Christianity, no part whatsoever.
    But just like Islam, there is an extremist faction of fundamentalists who predict a theocracy in America's future, and they're working feverishly to scale the so called "Seven Mountains" in order to make it a reality.

    The difference is, the theocrats already CONTROL two Middle Eastern countries, whereas the extremist fundie Christians do not control this country. But that doesn't mean they're not trying to.

    Question: Is this thread ultimately about Islam or Christianity, or liberals?
    "The Left ones think I'm Right, the Right ones think I'm wrong."
    Leon Russell - "Magic Mirror"

  4. #319 | Top
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Location
    The Blue Ridge
    Posts
    37,741
    Thanks
    21,918
    Thanked 12,581 Times in 9,703 Posts
    Groans
    4,312
    Groaned 1,312 Times in 1,210 Posts
    Blog Entries
    1

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by distraff View Post
    But the bible says to obey your monarch, which is completely contrary to what our country is all about.
    So what? It doesn't require a monarchy, period.

  5. #320 | Top
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Location
    The Blue Ridge
    Posts
    37,741
    Thanks
    21,918
    Thanked 12,581 Times in 9,703 Posts
    Groans
    4,312
    Groaned 1,312 Times in 1,210 Posts
    Blog Entries
    1

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Checkerboard Strangler View Post
    In mainstream Christianity, no part whatsoever.
    But just like Islam, there is an extremist faction of fundamentalists who predict a theocracy in America's future, and they're working feverishly to scale the so called "Seven Mountains" in order to make it a reality.

    The difference is, the theocrats already CONTROL two Middle Eastern countries, whereas the extremist fundie Christians do not control this country. But that doesn't mean they're not trying to.

    Question: Is this thread ultimately about Islam or Christianity, or liberals?
    Post 1 describes the point of this thread- take it at face value.
    Post 2 describes a secondary reason- stuffing a lie down someone's face.

  6. #321 | Top
    Join Date
    Aug 2016
    Posts
    48,976
    Thanks
    12,111
    Thanked 14,175 Times in 10,393 Posts
    Groans
    45
    Groaned 4,876 Times in 4,194 Posts
    Blog Entries
    1

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Soul View Post
    Actually, you're inferring that because you're insisting that this particular minority defines Christianity. I'm merely trying to follow your logic, which isn't easy because it's not logical lol.
    How much of a minority do you need to classify it as “part of”, dumbfuck?

    What a fucking laughable moron.

  7. #322 | Top
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Oklahoma
    Posts
    10,125
    Thanks
    3,144
    Thanked 4,536 Times in 2,978 Posts
    Groans
    84
    Groaned 107 Times in 102 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Christianity is taught to children who do not have the capacity to make decisions for themselves. It is absolutely not voluntary. I was forced to go to church and catechism classes when I was a kid. It was not voluntary.
    There is no socialism, so hard to be compulsory. Just like no capitalism. All countries are mixes.
    As a child did you “choose” to brush your teeth? Take a bath? Eat healthy food?

  8. The Following User Says Thank You to leaningright For This Post:

    MAGA MAN (03-25-2019)

  9. #323 | Top
    Join Date
    Aug 2016
    Posts
    48,976
    Thanks
    12,111
    Thanked 14,175 Times in 10,393 Posts
    Groans
    45
    Groaned 4,876 Times in 4,194 Posts
    Blog Entries
    1

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by leaningright View Post
    As a child did you “choose” to brush your teeth? Take a bath? Eat healthy food?
    At what point in your life were you were told you were doomed to an eternal hell if you didn’t believe?

    A little different set of consequences, isn’t it?

  10. #324 | Top
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Oklahoma
    Posts
    10,125
    Thanks
    3,144
    Thanked 4,536 Times in 2,978 Posts
    Groans
    84
    Groaned 107 Times in 102 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post
    At what point in your life were you were told you were doomed to an eternal hell if you didn’t believe?

    A little different set of consequences, isn’t it?
    Oh, I was taught that it takes more than just believing to keep one out of Hell. You have to obey and live faithfully. That involves much more than simple belief.

    And parents (dads in particular) who fail to teach their kids the truth are failing...themselves and their children. Eph. 6:4

    A different set of consequences? Physical health and hygiene and/or spiritual health and life. Many of us deem the latter to be much more important. I’ll teach my kid both though, thank you very much.

  11. The Following User Says Thank You to leaningright For This Post:

    MAGA MAN (03-25-2019)

  12. #325 | Top
    Join Date
    Nov 2017
    Posts
    53,523
    Thanks
    252
    Thanked 24,567 Times in 17,094 Posts
    Groans
    5,280
    Groaned 4,575 Times in 4,254 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by leaningright View Post
    As a child did you “choose” to brush your teeth? Take a bath? Eat healthy food?
    What does that have to do with inculcating a defenseless child in a terrifying religion? You are making the assumption that religion is a good. The founders disagreed. That is why they wanted the separation of religion and government. Religion is a source of strife and war. It is divisive. Tht is not how you form a union.

  13. #326 | Top
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Oklahoma
    Posts
    10,125
    Thanks
    3,144
    Thanked 4,536 Times in 2,978 Posts
    Groans
    84
    Groaned 107 Times in 102 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    You are making the assumption that religion is a good.
    Absolutely!

    The founders disagreed. That is why they wanted the separation of religion and government.
    Baloney. The founders, with few exceptions like Thomas Paine and Ethan Allen, were believers of scripture at the least, some of them very religious at the most. They wanted freedom to worship as they saw fit. What a warped sense of history and the founding of our nation some folks have.

  14. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to leaningright For This Post:

    cawacko (03-24-2019), MAGA MAN (03-25-2019)

  15. #327 | Top
    Join Date
    Aug 2016
    Posts
    48,976
    Thanks
    12,111
    Thanked 14,175 Times in 10,393 Posts
    Groans
    45
    Groaned 4,876 Times in 4,194 Posts
    Blog Entries
    1

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by leaningright View Post
    Oh, I was taught that it takes more than just believing to keep one out of Hell. You have to obey and live faithfully. That involves much more than simple belief.

    And parents (dads in particular) who fail to teach their kids the truth are failing...themselves and their children. Eph. 6:4

    A different set of consequences? Physical health and hygiene and/or spiritual health and life. Many of us deem the latter to be much more important. I’ll teach my kid both though, thank you very much.
    I taught my children about honesty, respect, humor, laughter, respect, family, inclusion, and many other family values without the Bible. They are much more accepting of the frailties and diversity of their fellow humans than the “Christians” I see on this forum.

    Who do you obey? And who tells you who to obey and what to obey? Some pulpit preacher? Or was it drilled into you as a child by your parents? It was your parents indoctrinating you, wasn’t it?

    It gets back down to your Bible, doesn’t it? Accepting it on face value that it is the word of your god because it says it is the word of your god.

  16. #328 | Top
    Join Date
    Aug 2016
    Posts
    48,976
    Thanks
    12,111
    Thanked 14,175 Times in 10,393 Posts
    Groans
    45
    Groaned 4,876 Times in 4,194 Posts
    Blog Entries
    1

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by leaningright View Post
    Absolutely!



    Baloney. The founders, with few exceptions like Thomas Paine and Ethan Allen, were believers of scripture at the least, some of them very religious at the most. They wanted freedom to worship as they saw fit. What a warped sense of history and the founding of our nation some folks have.

    Really? Religion is good?

    Whose religion? Just yours?

  17. #329 | Top
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Oklahoma
    Posts
    10,125
    Thanks
    3,144
    Thanked 4,536 Times in 2,978 Posts
    Groans
    84
    Groaned 107 Times in 102 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post
    I taught my children about honesty, respect, humor, laughter, respect, family, inclusion, and many other family values without the Bible. They are much more accepting of the frailties and diversity of their fellow humans than the “Christians” I see on this forum.

    Who do you obey? And who tells you who to obey and what to obey? Some pulpit preacher? Or was it drilled into you as a child by your parents? It was your parents indoctrinating you, wasn’t it?

    It gets back down to your Bible, doesn’t it? Accepting it on face value that it is the word of your god because it says it is the word of your god.
    My parents took me to church...like they were supposed to (Heb. 10:25). They taught me themselves...like they were supposed to (Eph. 6:4). I eventually obeyed the gospel when I was old enough to understand but while still in the household of my parents. I would be lying if I didn’t say they were a tremendous influence. As I went off to college I eventually owned my religion for myself, no longer influenced by my parents but growing in a proper relationship with God. That relationship wasn’t without its tests and trials but it has grown over my 52 years. Yes, I believe the Bible to be the inspired word of God and that is what I strive to obey. I study it daily and try to live it out in my life to the best of my frail human ability. And my wife and I teach it to my son.

  18. The Following User Says Thank You to leaningright For This Post:

    MAGA MAN (03-25-2019)

  19. #330 | Top
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Oklahoma
    Posts
    10,125
    Thanks
    3,144
    Thanked 4,536 Times in 2,978 Posts
    Groans
    84
    Groaned 107 Times in 102 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post
    Really? Religion is good?

    Whose religion? Just yours?
    Yes...Acts 4:12

Similar Threads

  1. APP - Can someone tell me how this muslim behavior is compatible with the west?
    By canceled.2021.3 in forum Above Plain Politics Forum
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 06-22-2016, 07:45 AM
  2. Christianity?
    By signalmankenneth in forum Off Topic Forum
    Replies: 10
    Last Post: 05-12-2010, 12:54 AM
  3. The Dangers of christianity in the USA
    By signalmankenneth in forum General Politics Forum
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 04-25-2010, 05:23 PM
  4. The stupidity of Christianity Part MCVIII
    By BRUTALITOPS in forum Off Topic Forum
    Replies: 43
    Last Post: 03-02-2010, 01:36 AM
  5. End of Christianity?
    By OrnotBitwise in forum Off Topic Forum
    Replies: 11
    Last Post: 12-18-2006, 08:59 AM

Bookmarks

Posting Rules

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •