MAGA MAN (03-23-2019)
No. I'm looking for the great scholar to provide for me one verse of the Bible that makes it incompatible with the Constitution. Notwithstanding the "Free Exercise" clause we'll focus on "establishment", we're looking for something from their holy book that shows that Christians are mandated in some way by their religion to take over and run the government or something. One little thing? Just one.
Excellence is an art won by training and habituation. We do not act rightly because we have virtue or excellence, but rather we have those because we have acted rightly. We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act but a habit.
- -- Aristotle
Believe nothing on the faith of traditions, even though they have been held in honor for many generations and in diverse places. Do not believe a thing because many people speak of it. Do not believe on the faith of the sages of the past. Do not believe what you yourself have imagined, persuading yourself that a God inspires you. Believe nothing on the sole authority of your masters and priests. After examination, believe what you yourself have tested and found to be reasonable, and conform your conduct thereto.
- -- The Buddha
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
- -- Aristotle
MAGA MAN (03-23-2019)
The fact that it's a religion is what makes it incompatible, but you seem to want what it says in the Bible, and not the constitution. In the bible there is stuff about obeying governing bodies, but it's nuts. I think it's actually referring to Israel, back before the time of Christ. It's the only thing I can think of to answer, without reading through it. It took me a moment to find it, since I haven't seen a bible in years.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage...-7&version=NIV
MAGA MAN (03-23-2019)
MAGA MAN (03-23-2019)
As a Secular Humanist, I don't want ANY 'religious' stuff tarnishing the United States, like 'In God We Trust' on our Money or like 'Under God' in the Pledge of Allegiance.
I doubt most Americans want Muslim Holy Days honored, Muslim paraphernalia on Public Property, or Muslim chants before Public Meetings.
I would guess most Americans are 'Christian' and would be offended by inserting Islamic Traditions into Mainstream America.
Secular Humanists are offended in the same way (as I would think Jews would be) in the mass marketing of 'Christianity'.
How about 'God Is Great' on our Flag? How about 'The Christian Republic of America'? Any of those appeal to you?
MAGA MAN (03-23-2019)
According to Christianity the universe is a big dictatorship, and we are bound to obey and worship our God because he kind of owns us. He will punish those who believe in another/no religion with eternal torment in a lake of fire for finite sins. This God set up a theocracy in ancient Israel and commanded his people to commit genocide of the locals for having other religions. People must follow a strict religious law or risk the death penalty. After Jesus, the Christians set up religious communes where everyone gave everything they earned to the church, and the church divided accordingly. These communities were led the leaders of the church and were not democracies. Christians were also commanded to obey their kings and pay their taxes because their kings were appointed by God. Slaves were also commanded not to flee their masters.
This all definitely falls perfectly in line with the constitution.
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MAGA MAN (03-23-2019)
Common sense is not a gift, it's a punishment because you have to deal with everyone who doesn't have it.
MAGA MAN (03-23-2019)
Exactly, although more precisely, there are both. And there has to be.
No matter which party controls the greater piece of our government, we are going to have both the public and the private sectors regardless.
Anybody who can't work with both socialism and capitalism simultaneously isn't capable of governing a modern country.
What's more, this should be OBVIOUS. Throwing around words like socialism and capitalism without coming to grips with what they actually mean is not helpful to the discussion.
distraff (03-23-2019)
Evangelizing is there mission statement, it's where the term comes from, and you see it in their actions. You don't have to be religious to know all about the stuff. Maybe if they weren't giving pass, and kissing Trumps ass, they wouldn't have people ragging on them. I was raised Christian, enough to know that is not on the up, and up. End's don't justify the means. The last thing we need is for the government to act like religious parents. There isn't much freedom, where anyone has to cater to religion. If doctrines are forced by governing bodies, then how can it ever be faithful belief?
distraff (03-23-2019)
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