What part of Christianity isn't compatible with the US Constitution...

[Nordberg]

Absolutely!



Baloney. The founders, with few exceptions like Thomas Paine and Ethan Allen, were believers of scripture at the least, some of them very religious at the most. They wanted freedom to worship as they saw fit. What a warped sense of history and the founding of our nation some folks have.

read post 161. That is what a FOUNDER said about religion. Religion was seen as divisive by founders. You are, of course, wrong. Your lack of knowledge about the founders is clear. Are you unfamiliar with the separation of church and state? You must be.

[Old Trapper]

The Secular Humanists don't want your bullshit Man-God crap cluttering up the Public Square.
No one has a problem with you guys playing 'Harry Potter' over at YOUR house.

Wanna bet?

https://abcnews.go.com/US/california...ry?id=14582868

http://libertymagazine.org/article/unlawful-assembly

https://www.nytimes.com/2001/02/25/n...502E46&gwt=pay

[Old Trapper]

read post 161. That is what a FOUNDER said about religion. Religion was seen as divisive by founders. You are, of course, wrong. Your lack of knowledge about the founders is clear. Are you unfamiliar with the separation of church and state? You must be.

As is yours. Many of the Founders believed the country woud not survive without a religious foundation. Washington, Madison, Webster, Adams, and many others.

https://www.turleytalks.com/blog-sum...a-free-society

“…only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious they have more need of masters.” Letter of Benjamin Franklin to Messrs. The Abbes Chalut and Arnaud, dated April 17, 1787. Jared Sparks, ed., The Writings of Benjamin Franklin (Boston: Tappan, Whittemore and Mason, 1840) 10:297.

“…the moral principles contained in the Scriptures ought to form the basis of all our civil constitutions and laws… All the miseries and evils which men suffer from vice, crime, ambition, injustice, oppression, slavery and war, precede from their despising or neglecting the precepts contained in the Bible.” Noah Webster, “Advice to the Young,” History of the United States, (New Haven: Durrie & Peck, 1832), 338-340.

[Jack]

Wanna bet?

https://abcnews.go.com/US/california...ry?id=14582868

http://libertymagazine.org/article/unlawful-assembly

https://www.nytimes.com/2001/02/25/n...502E46&gwt=pay

Each of the 3 cases you site are 'Zoning' issues. Too many cars, too many people, in an area*zoned 'Residential'.
Commercial areas have different zoning characteristics, like adequate space for Parking.
It's NOT about 'Religion', 'Politics', or 'Bingo', it's about 'Residential Zoning'.

[domer76]

Yes...Acts 4:12

Typical circular argument.

[leaningright]

Typical circular argument.

Typical secular dismissal.

[MAGA MAN]

How much of a minority do you need to classify it as “part of”, dumbfuck?

What a fucking laughable moron.

Small enough where it's policies are not acceptable to the main stream lol.

[MAGA MAN]

You are making the assumption that religion is a good. The founders disagreed.

Citation needed...

[MAGA MAN]

I taught my children about honesty, respect, humor, laughter, respect, family, inclusion, and many other family values without the Bible. They are much more accepting of the frailties and diversity of their fellow humans than the “Christians” I see on this forum.

Who do you obey? And who tells you who to obey and what to obey? Some pulpit preacher? Or was it drilled into you as a child by your parents? It was your parents indoctrinating you, wasn’t it?

It gets back down to your Bible, doesn’t it? Accepting it on face value that it is the word of your god because it says it is the word of your god.

Your children are no doubt worthless pieces of shit, like you lol.

[MAGA MAN]

John Dickenson, founding father
Religion and governments are certainly different things, instituted for different ends, the design of one being to promote temporal happiness, the design of the other, to procure the favor of god and thereby the salvation of our souls. While these are distinct and apart, the peace of society is preserved,and the end of both are satisfied. By mixing them together, feuds, animosities and persecutions have been raised which have deluged the world in blood and disgraced human nature.
Yeah, the founders were actually trying to separate the church and state to save the country, They saw the dangers of religion getting inside the government, It would have the ability to cause strife and conflict, which would be detrimental to the emerging nation. That fear has proven to still exist. Religion causes conflict and should be held at arm's length from the governing process.

When it came time to vote on the signing of the Declaration of Independence, John Dickinson had to abstain...

https://www.revolutionary-war.net/john-dickinson.html

NOT a founder lol

[domer76]

Typical secular dismissal.

“The Bible is the word of God"
"How can you be sure it's the word of God?"
"Because the Bible tells us so"
"Why believe the Bible?
"The Bible is infallible"
"How do you know it's infallible?"...

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[MAGA MAN]

Poor domer...

[Old Trapper]

Each of the 3 cases you site are 'Zoning' issues. Too many cars, too many people, in an area*zoned 'Residential'.
Commercial areas have different zoning characteristics, like adequate space for Parking.
It's NOT about 'Religion', 'Politics', or 'Bingo', it's about 'Residential Zoning'.

If you had bothered to read the cases with an intelligent mind, you would have seen they were using zoning codes to prevent one from holding a prayer meeting. There was nothing in the ordinances to prevent one from using their private residence as they were being used. There was nothing "commercial" about the activities. It was all about religion.

For instance, the Fromm case used an ordinance that banned religious meetings. The Denver case said "The Denver zoning administration stepped in and issued an order stating that the Reiters were violating a city ordinance that prohibited more than one "prayer meeting" at a private residence per month. The couple was told that if they allowed their friends to visit their home more than once each month for the purposes of prayer and fellowship, they could face criminal sanctions. ".

Is that not about religion?

[domer76]

Poor domer...

Dontcha just hate it when I call you idiots out on your stupidity?

You see, dumbshit, quoting the Bible to validate the Bible is the height of circularity. Did that go over your head?

[MAGA MAN]

Dontcha just hate it when I call you idiots out on your stupidity?

You see, dumbshit, quoting the Bible to validate the Bible is the height of circularity. Did that go over your head?

What JPP poster has done that lol?