Someone should tell these six groups that they each have only one person.
https://www.salon.com/2015/04/07/6_m...nores_partner/
Someone should tell these six groups that they each have only one person.
https://www.salon.com/2015/04/07/6_m...nores_partner/
But every time this is tried, we end up with the government owning everything. They never actually step away and let the people take over.
Besides, would you really want everything to belong to everyone? Would you want a stranger to be able to just walk into your house and do whatever they want there?
On the three or four occasions when it was, briefly, begun under war conditions, the capitalist armies rushed in to do mass murder and stop it. When I said you were thinking like an American, I was meaning that you describe normal capitalism (in which, for various reasons, the capitalist state controls certain industries or whatever) as 'socialism'. Socialism is not State control but the power of the (majority) working class. Why should a stranger want to walk into the house I was living in? He'd have one to live in, and we'd soon see off any trumpite bully-throwbacks by mass action.
MAGA MAN (03-23-2019)
Earlier I mentioned a verse that warns against worship of idolatry, and how this has been interpreted by Christians as being required to forcefully convert others.
Holy books are essentially ink blot tests that can be interpreted any way. My stance here has been that any religion could be incompatible with muh Constitution depending on how it's being interpreted.
iolo (03-23-2019)
But in the cases where that didn't happen, the government stayed in power and never turned over control to the people.
No, I never said the government having some public companies is Socialism.When I said you were thinking like an American, I was meaning that you describe normal capitalism (in which, for various reasons, the capitalist state controls certain industries or whatever) as 'socialism'. Socialism is not State control but the power of the (majority) working class.
And I'm not saying Socialism doesn't work. I like Liberal Socialism a lot. I'm saying one common aspect of certain branches of Socialism, that being collective ownership, does not work well at all.
Why would a person want to go on a school shooting? People do stupid things. People are selfish and greedy. Maybe a person would want to use your house for one thing, and his own house for something else. The point is, it can happen, and it probably would.Why should a stranger want to walk into the house I was living in? He'd have one to live in, and we'd soon see off any trumpite bully-throwbacks by mass action.
In France, the capitalist government invaded Paris, killed masses of working people, and destroyed the Commune. In the Soviet Union the capitalist armies drove the (minority) working class back to the villages and a state-capitalist government emerged. In Hungary the Romanians invaded and killed the socialists. In Bavaria the overthrow of democracy meant the beginnings of Nazism. Capitalist governments never turn over control to the people unless capitalism is collapsing and they are forced to.
People do stupid things when part of a stupid society where nobody cares about anyone else. In no working-class community I know would it be tolerated for two minutes anyone pushing in where someone else was living..
That's absurd, the Constitution guarantees the free exercise thereof. Just being a religion is not evidence of incompatibility, in fact the Constitution guarantees that the government cannot make laws against it. And following the laws is certainly not incompatible. So, verses directly telling Christians to follow the laws certainly isn't incompatible with the Constitution. When you speak like this I picture Kermit the Frog running around his arms flapping in the air because he's so very upset....
Excellence is an art won by training and habituation. We do not act rightly because we have virtue or excellence, but rather we have those because we have acted rightly. We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act but a habit.
- -- Aristotle
Believe nothing on the faith of traditions, even though they have been held in honor for many generations and in diverse places. Do not believe a thing because many people speak of it. Do not believe on the faith of the sages of the past. Do not believe what you yourself have imagined, persuading yourself that a God inspires you. Believe nothing on the sole authority of your masters and priests. After examination, believe what you yourself have tested and found to be reasonable, and conform your conduct thereto.
- -- The Buddha
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
- -- Aristotle
MAGA MAN (03-23-2019)
So, basically the religion is not incompatible with the Constitution. Some of the less intelligent followers may take actions that are not compatible with the constitution, just like some atheists say dumb things that are incompatible such as, "It's a religion, therefore it is incompatible!"
Excellence is an art won by training and habituation. We do not act rightly because we have virtue or excellence, but rather we have those because we have acted rightly. We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act but a habit.
- -- Aristotle
Believe nothing on the faith of traditions, even though they have been held in honor for many generations and in diverse places. Do not believe a thing because many people speak of it. Do not believe on the faith of the sages of the past. Do not believe what you yourself have imagined, persuading yourself that a God inspires you. Believe nothing on the sole authority of your masters and priests. After examination, believe what you yourself have tested and found to be reasonable, and conform your conduct thereto.
- -- The Buddha
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
- -- Aristotle
MAGA MAN (03-23-2019)
So? As a religious follower those people don't want your secular humanist beliefs doing the same. The "Christian Republic" would be a violation of the constitution as it clearly would be "regarding the establishment of religion" and it isn't anything that the Bible would tell these people to do. Basically you say that the religion is incompatible, but provide no evidence and say things like, "I don't like this." So? Is there anything in having that on the cash that tells you to follow their religion? If not, and there isn't, then it certainly isn't establishing a religion.
Excellence is an art won by training and habituation. We do not act rightly because we have virtue or excellence, but rather we have those because we have acted rightly. We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act but a habit.
- -- Aristotle
Believe nothing on the faith of traditions, even though they have been held in honor for many generations and in diverse places. Do not believe a thing because many people speak of it. Do not believe on the faith of the sages of the past. Do not believe what you yourself have imagined, persuading yourself that a God inspires you. Believe nothing on the sole authority of your masters and priests. After examination, believe what you yourself have tested and found to be reasonable, and conform your conduct thereto.
- -- The Buddha
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
- -- Aristotle
Excellence is an art won by training and habituation. We do not act rightly because we have virtue or excellence, but rather we have those because we have acted rightly. We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act but a habit.
- -- Aristotle
Believe nothing on the faith of traditions, even though they have been held in honor for many generations and in diverse places. Do not believe a thing because many people speak of it. Do not believe on the faith of the sages of the past. Do not believe what you yourself have imagined, persuading yourself that a God inspires you. Believe nothing on the sole authority of your masters and priests. After examination, believe what you yourself have tested and found to be reasonable, and conform your conduct thereto.
- -- The Buddha
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
- -- Aristotle
Your constitution requires that you allow those people to freely exercise their religion, so being a religion itself cannot possibly be incompatible muh constitution. Now some actions of individuals may be, just as the actions of some atheists insisting that no public mention of religion must be the answer is incompatible with the free exercise clause but they get to say it regardless.
Excellence is an art won by training and habituation. We do not act rightly because we have virtue or excellence, but rather we have those because we have acted rightly. We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act but a habit.
- -- Aristotle
Believe nothing on the faith of traditions, even though they have been held in honor for many generations and in diverse places. Do not believe a thing because many people speak of it. Do not believe on the faith of the sages of the past. Do not believe what you yourself have imagined, persuading yourself that a God inspires you. Believe nothing on the sole authority of your masters and priests. After examination, believe what you yourself have tested and found to be reasonable, and conform your conduct thereto.
- -- The Buddha
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
- -- Aristotle
Excellence is an art won by training and habituation. We do not act rightly because we have virtue or excellence, but rather we have those because we have acted rightly. We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act but a habit.
- -- Aristotle
Believe nothing on the faith of traditions, even though they have been held in honor for many generations and in diverse places. Do not believe a thing because many people speak of it. Do not believe on the faith of the sages of the past. Do not believe what you yourself have imagined, persuading yourself that a God inspires you. Believe nothing on the sole authority of your masters and priests. After examination, believe what you yourself have tested and found to be reasonable, and conform your conduct thereto.
- -- The Buddha
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
- -- Aristotle
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