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    It is truly despicable how climate alarmists use children to further their propaganda. Hitler and Goebbels would have been proud of you. The extreme RCP 8.5 scenario outlined in the AR5 2013 IPCC report is always trotted out by climate alarmists, even though the IPCC themselves acknowledge it is unrealistic, in other words an impossible scenario.



    Summary: Today’s post tells about the corruption TX of yet another vital American institution – climate science. See how RCP8.5, a valuable worst-case scenario, has been misrepresented to incite fear in the American public. This is a large change for me, but this outrage has gone on too long to excuse or ignore.

    “There are some 20,000 research papers listed on Google Scholar, a search engine for academics, that mention the worst-case scenario for climate change, one where an overpopulated, technology-poor world digs up all the coal it can find. Basically, it’s the most cataclysmic estimate of global warming.”
    — Bloomberg News, 9 February 2018. There are 182 thousand hits for climate change “worst case” and 82 thousand for climate change temperature “worst case.“

    RCP8.5 is the most severe of the four scenarios used in the IPCC’s AR5. A well-designed worst-case scenario, it has been misrepresented to become the basis for one of the most successful propaganda campaigns in modern US history. How this happened reveals much about our difficulty grappling with vital public policy issues.

    A few of the many articles using RCP8.5 to terrify the public.

    National Geographic
    September 2013 issue.

    “{The Green New Deal} would only change the dates for planetary suicide by a decade or so.”
    — “We Need Radical Thinking on Climate Change” by Kevin Drum at Mother Jones. He gives neither these “dates” or its peer-reviewed source.

    America has been bombarded for a decade with terrifying articles, many using projections based on RCP8.5 (others misrepresent different aspects of climate science). Few of those mention RCP8.5’s implausible assumptions. That would ruin the narrative.

    Here are a few, showing almost certain doom facing us.

    “Surge In ‘Danger Days’ Just Around The Corner” by Brian Kahn at ClimateCentral, 12 August 2015.
    “What Your Favorite Cities Will Look Like if We Do Nothing About Climate Change. Fancy a swim?” by Jack Holmes, Esquire, 10 December 2015.

    “The Price Tag of Being Young: Climate Change and Millennials’ Economic Future” at Demos, 22 August 2016.

    “This Melting Glacier in Antarctica Could Raise Sea Levels By 11 Feet” by Frennan Milliken in Motherboard, 17 December 2016.

    No mention that centuries or millennia are required, or the many qualifications the scientists give to their conclusions.
    Typical “reporting” by the Guardian, exaggerating a good study to create alarmist propaganda: “Climate change to cause humid heatwaves that will kill even healthy people”, 2 August 2017.

    VOX: “Watch how the climate could change in these US cities by 2050” by Umair Irfan and Kavya Sukumar – “In some cities, it’ll be like moving two states south.”

    More science converted to propaganda. Start with a massive literature The Hindu Kush Himalaya Assessment: Mountains, Climate Change, Sustainability and People, Philippus Wester et al. editors. The Guardian reports it as “A third of Himalayan ice cap doomed, finds report” by Damian Carrington, 4 February 2019 — “Even radical climate change action won’t save glaciers, endangering 2 billion people.” This refers to RCP8.5. No mention of its unlikely assumptions.

    “Climate of North American cities will shift hundreds of miles in one generation” in ScienceDaily, 12 February 2019. Looking to life in 2080 under RCP8.5.
    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/03/...imate-science/

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    Politicians = SMART

    Scientist = STUPID
    ONE-N-DONE, YOU GOT PLAYED; Time To Play-On
    Remember ... ELECTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES ... So STFU Bitch

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourbon View Post
    Politicians = SMART

    Scientist = STUPID
    Really, so you think it's ok for politicians to use children to propagandise their agenda? Isn't that exactly what the Nazis did with the Hitler Youth?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    Really, so you think it's ok for politicians to use children to propagandise their agenda?

    It's How Donald Trump became Rich and President ... Conning STUPID PEOPLE
    ONE-N-DONE, YOU GOT PLAYED; Time To Play-On
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourbon View Post
    It's How Donald Trump became Rich and President ... Conning STUPID PEOPLE
    Do you think the scientific method is progressed by votes, cloying sentiment and propaganda? That seems to be what you are saying, maybe you could elucidate further?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    Do you think the scientific method is decided by votes, cloying sentiment and propaganda?

    I believe is Science not Politicians ...
    ONE-N-DONE, YOU GOT PLAYED; Time To Play-On
    Remember ... ELECTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES ... So STFU Bitch

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourbon View Post
    Politicians = SMART

    Scientist = STUPID
    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    Really, so you think it's ok for politicians to use children to propagandise their agenda? Isn't that exactly what the Nazis did with the Hitler Youth?
    I have to agree with Burpin'.
    Politicians are smart to use children as human shields to promote their agenda because it's all they have left. It's an act of desperation.
    Is it OK? no. Immoral? yes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourbon View Post
    I believe is Science not Politicians ...
    If that were really true then you'd support Trump's Presidential Committee on Climate Security headed up by William Happer, but I know you won't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anonymoose View Post
    I have to agree with Burpin'.
    Politicians are smart to use children as human shields to promote their agenda because it's all they have left. It's an act of desperation.
    Is it OK? no. Immoral? yes
    Indeed, suffer the little children.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    Indeed, suffer the little children.
    DOMINIC LAWSON: BRAINWASHED AT THE BLACKBOARD - No regimes were more polluting than the communists. So how ludicrous to see the red flag flown at a schoolchildren's climate-change protest in eco-friendly UK!


    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/a...iendly-UK.html

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    Manufacturing climate nightmares: misusing science to create horrific predictions

    Summary: Scientists and journalists bombard us with news about the coming climate catastrophe, described as certain unless we drastically change our economy. This has plunged many into despair. The hidden key to these forecasts is RCP8.5, the worst case scenario of the IPCC’s Fifth Assessment Report — often erroneously described as the “business as usual” scenario. Understanding this misuse of science reveals the weak basis of the most dire warnings (which set the mood at the Paris Conference), and helps explain why the US public assigns a low priority to fighting climate change despite the intense decades-long publicity campaign.

    https://fabiusmaximus.com/2015/11/05...-future-90153/

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    The best scientific group should study the matter. In this case, that would be the NAS.

    Deniers can consider BEST, which they funded.

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    This is what the world’s leading climate alarmist says about the Green New Deal:

    The notion that renewable energies and batteries alone will provide all needed energy is fantastical. It is also a grotesque idea, because of the staggering environmental pollution from mining and material disposal, if all energy was derived from renewables and batteries. Worse, tricking the public to accept the fantasy of 100 percent renewables means that, in reality, fossil fuels reign and climate change grows.

    James Hansen June, 2018

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