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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    Let's review: You voted for a mediocre Reality TV entertainer with no qualifications to be the leader of the Free World.
    A salesman of real estate and frozen steak products who shows no capability or interest in learning about governance, statecraft, and policy.

    You are in no position to claim your judgement is better than a garden variety 16 year old.
    and you voted for an inexperienced nut-bag that had never ran anything in his life, hated the country, and all because of the color of his skin?

    so judging someone else's choice in leadership is really not your strong suit
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    Quote Originally Posted by CosmicRocker View Post
    voting rights organizations
    Common Cause

    Lawyers' Committee for Civil Rights

    National Voting Rights

    Brennan Center for Justice......(more)

    SCSJ’s voting rights

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    What is the extent of voter fraud?

    What are the percentages?

    How big a problem is this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Getin the ring View Post
    and you voted for an inexperienced nut-bag that had never ran anything in his life, hated the country, and all because of the color of his skin?

    so judging someone else's choice in leadership is really not your strong suit
    So you do not like orange skin?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LV426 View Post
    Why shouldn't 16 year olds have a say in how the country is run since they're going to be living in this country longer than an 80 year old?
    Because the typical 16 year old can’t make an informed political decision and has the attention span of a squirrel lol?

    On the other hand, I can see why democrats would want them voting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Beto Omar View Post
    Because the typical 16 year old can’t make an informed political decision and has the attention span of a squirrel lol?
    And an 80 year old with onset Alzheimer's or dementia can?

    Whaaaa?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Beto Omar View Post
    Because the typical 16 year old can’t make an informed political decision and has the attention span of a squirrel lol?
    Most old people suffer dementia or mental lapses, and thus, can't make an informed decision because their brains are deteriorating.

    All the arguments you're making against 16 year olds voting are the same arguments that can be made against letting those over retirement age vote too.

    If there was a cutoff age for voting, the GOP would never win an election again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Getin the ring View Post
    and you voted for an inexperienced nut-bag that had never ran anything in his life, hated the country, and all because of the color of his skin?
    I voted for Obama because McCain picked Sarah Palin as his VP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    How retro.
    How necessary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    A nice attempt at trolling, perhaps? But it would be blatantly unconstitutional.

    More importantly, I think disabled people, housewives, stay-at-home moms, and rural survivalists living off the grid should be able to vote in a representative democracy.
    Not trolling at all. It is a suggestion. One that would work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noise View Post
    people confuse ability to drive, and drink and serve ( age of majority) with enough experience to make a decision of a weighty matter.
    18 is pushing it. 16 is laughable. you might as well have illegals voting....oh wait...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    Let's review: You voted for a mediocre Reality TV entertainer with no qualifications to be the leader of the Free World.
    A salesman of real estate and frozen steak products who shows no capability or interest in learning about governance, statecraft, and policy.

    You are in no position to claim your judgement is better than a garden variety 16 year old.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    I love this post x10.
    Much obliged. I really do not see how a moderately well-informed 16 year old could make a worse choice than voting for an unintelligent Reality TV entertainer to lead the Free World - like some adults on this forum did.

    In principle, it really comes down to having an informed citizenry. That is more important than age or life experience. Again, there were plenty of adult, college educated Republicans on this board who thought invading Iraq was an awesome idea.

    I like your insight about civics classes. If it isn't already, that should be a requirement of all primary and secondary education.

    Also, citizens can be trusted to make reasonably wise choices - if they are adequately informed. We obviously need a better media, better journalistic standards, better sources of information, more transparency, and perhaps we should consider bringing the fairness doctrine back. The problem that Fox News has created, is a media model of selling propaganda camoflauged as news.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Beto Omar View Post
    Because the typical 16 year old can’t make an informed political decision and has the attention span of a squirrel lol?
    You got conned into voting for a reality TV show host.

    Your judgment sucks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
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    Much obliged. I really do not see how a moderately well-informed 16 year old could make a worse choice than voting for an unintelligent Reality TV entertainer to lead the Free World - like some adults on this forum did.

    In principle, it really comes down to having an informed citizenry. That is more important than age or life experience. Again, there were plenty of adult, college educated Republicans on this board who thought invading Iraq was an awesome idea.

    I like your insight about civics classes. If it isn't already, that should be a requirement of all primary and secondary education.

    Also, citizens can be trusted to make reasonably wise choices - if they are adequately informed. We obviously need a better media, better journalistic standards, better sources of information, more transparency, and perhaps we should consider bringing the fairness doctrine back. The problem that Fox News has created, is a media model of selling propaganda camoflauged as news.
    we could have had an unrepentant interventionist who never owned up to her primary role of regime change in Libya,
    or meddling in Syria ( her Friends of Syria initiative) and who never would have tried detente with North Korea.

    She never would have tried to grow GDP or reworked NAFTA while pursing trade reform with China.
    She would have been the status quo of ignoring economic growth in favor of more "fair distribution"
    which just means smaller but equal amounts of the pie for everyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Beto Omar View Post
    16 year olds lately can't even identify WHERE states are on a map let alone have knowledge of candidates running for office IN those unidentified states.
    Abortion rights dogma can obscure human reason & harden the human heart so much that the same person who feels
    empathy for animal suffering can lack compassion for unborn children who experience lethal violence and excruciating
    pain in abortion.

    Unborn animals are protected in their nesting places, humans are not. To abort something is to end something
    which has begun. To abort life is to end it.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Beto Omar View Post
    Because the typical 16 year old can’t make an informed political decision and has the attention span of a squirrel lol?

    On the other hand, I can see why democrats would want them voting.
    Are you assuming they would all vote Democratic?


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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    Are you assuming they would all vote Democratic?
    I’m sure Nancy is assuming a majority of them would lol.

    With all the challenges facing this country why would congress waste their time on this anyway? Do they sit around and think of novel initiatives they can put up for a vote?
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