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    Default When liberals claim that illegals can't vote or collect welfare/food stamps...



    THEY THRIVED DURING OBAMA'S REIGN OF ERROR



    Located in an apartment in a primarily Hispanic town in Oregon, a clandestine lab churned out thousands of fake Social Security cards, drivers' licenses and immigration documents that were sold around the United States for years.

    The operation, revealed for the first time in a federal court document, showed that a syndicate based in Oaxaca, Mexico, operated the forged-document factory in Woodburn, a town of 24,000 in an agricultural region a half-hour's drive from Portland.

    Employers, including farms, nurseries and wineries, routinely employ people who are in the United States illegally but who can produce a Social Security card or work visa. Many agricultural employers say it's not their responsibility — and that they lack the expertise — to determine if the documents are genuine.

    The arrest on Sept. 21, 2017, of Miguel Merecias-Lopez reveals how, in many cases, such documents are produced. Merecias-Lopez pleaded guilty in federal court in Portland to conspiracy to produce false identification documents and possession with intent to distribute methamphetamine. He had gone to the parking lot to sell more than a kilogram (2.2 pounds) of meth, prosecutors said.

    Homeland Security Investigations had already been looking at the syndicate before the arrest, said Kevin Sonoff, spokesman for the United States Attorney's Office in Portland. After Merecias-Lopez was arrested, investigators went to his apartment and found computers, scanners, laminators, cameras and a high-resolution printer.

    "The fraud ring operated for more than a decade and produced over 10,000 fraudulent documents that they distributed to customers around the United States," U.S. Attorney Billy Williams and Assistant U.S. Attorney Peter Sax said in the plea agreement posted n court documents. Previous detailed court documents remain under seal.

    The ring communicated with customers using Facebook, email, Snapchat and in person, the plea deal states. Customers emailed, texted or mailed the ring digital passport-style photos for insertion into the fake ID cards, or visited a clandestine photography lab in Woodburn where their photos were taken, the plea agreement says. Customers paid electronically through PayPal, through the mail or in person.

    In the apartment, agents found dozens of security images and seals used in legitimate identification documents. They also found stored digital photos of more than 4,000 customers.

    The ring produced a wide array of documents, including drivers' licenses for over 25 different states, Social Security cards, lawful permanent resident cards, U.S. birth certificates and marriage licenses.

    There is a huge market for such documents. Immigrants working illegally in this country accounted for about 46 percent of America's roughly 800,000 crop farmworkers in recent years, according to an Associated Press analysis of data from the U.S. Departments of Labor and Agriculture. Many more work in the nation's hospitality, service and construction industries.


    https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/oregon/articles/2019-03-05/feds-forgery-operation-produced-over-10-000-fake-documents

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    Immigrants can vote in state and local elections if the state law permits.

    End of story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post


    THEY THRIVED DURING OBAMA'S REIGN OF ERROR



    Located in an apartment in a primarily Hispanic town in Oregon, a clandestine lab churned out thousands of fake Social Security cards, drivers' licenses and immigration documents that were sold around the United States for years.

    The operation, revealed for the first time in a federal court document, showed that a syndicate based in Oaxaca, Mexico, operated the forged-document factory in Woodburn, a town of 24,000 in an agricultural region a half-hour's drive from Portland.

    Employers, including farms, nurseries and wineries, routinely employ people who are in the United States illegally but who can produce a Social Security card or work visa. Many agricultural employers say it's not their responsibility — and that they lack the expertise — to determine if the documents are genuine.

    The arrest on Sept. 21, 2017, of Miguel Merecias-Lopez reveals how, in many cases, such documents are produced. Merecias-Lopez pleaded guilty in federal court in Portland to conspiracy to produce false identification documents and possession with intent to distribute methamphetamine. He had gone to the parking lot to sell more than a kilogram (2.2 pounds) of meth, prosecutors said.

    Homeland Security Investigations had already been looking at the syndicate before the arrest, said Kevin Sonoff, spokesman for the United States Attorney's Office in Portland. After Merecias-Lopez was arrested, investigators went to his apartment and found computers, scanners, laminators, cameras and a high-resolution printer.

    "The fraud ring operated for more than a decade and produced over 10,000 fraudulent documents that they distributed to customers around the United States," U.S. Attorney Billy Williams and Assistant U.S. Attorney Peter Sax said in the plea agreement posted n court documents. Previous detailed court documents remain under seal.

    The ring communicated with customers using Facebook, email, Snapchat and in person, the plea deal states. Customers emailed, texted or mailed the ring digital passport-style photos for insertion into the fake ID cards, or visited a clandestine photography lab in Woodburn where their photos were taken, the plea agreement says. Customers paid electronically through PayPal, through the mail or in person.

    In the apartment, agents found dozens of security images and seals used in legitimate identification documents. They also found stored digital photos of more than 4,000 customers.

    The ring produced a wide array of documents, including drivers' licenses for over 25 different states, Social Security cards, lawful permanent resident cards, U.S. birth certificates and marriage licenses.

    There is a huge market for such documents. Immigrants working illegally in this country accounted for about 46 percent of America's roughly 800,000 crop farmworkers in recent years, according to an Associated Press analysis of data from the U.S. Departments of Labor and Agriculture. Many more work in the nation's hospitality, service and construction industries.


    https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/oregon/articles/2019-03-05/feds-forgery-operation-produced-over-10-000-fake-documents

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    In sanctuary states they don't even need false documents. The state just openly says laws don't apply to illegals.
    Reckless drivers are a bigger threat to you than all other criminals put together!

    THE BIG LIE - Blacks and whites are different physically but identical mentally!

    There is no way 81 million americans voted for a man they know is a child molester w dementia. Impeach Joe the Pedophile Vegetable (JPV)

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    The radical Socialist Democrats have blood on their hands. Their refusal to defend the borders and their Democrat sanctuary cities where illegals (non-citizens) who assault, rape and murder our citizens, are protected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmymccready View Post
    Immigrants can vote in state and local elections if the state law permits.

    End of story.
    is there a hidden word in your post.......illegal.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl View Post
    The radical Socialist Democrats have blood on their hands. Their refusal to defend the borders and their Democrat sanctuary cities where illegals (non-citizens) who assault, rape and murder our citizens, are protected.

    You're being hysterical just calm down

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    Quote Originally Posted by katzgar View Post
    You're being hysterical just calm down
    Refute the post, stop being intentionally obtuse.

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    No matter what proof anyone has of illegals breaking the laws by voting or food stamps etc. the left will deny it happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl View Post
    Refute the post, stop being intentionally obtuse.

    http://epmonthly.com/article/handling-hysteria/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumpy View Post
    No matter what proof anyone has of illegals breaking the laws by voting or food stamps etc. the left will deny it happens.
    Illegals (non-citizens) broke our laws the minute that they crossed our borders. If they tie their shoes here, they have done so illegally. What part of "illegal" is confusing the left?

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    So, you read Emergency Physician's Monthly to handle your hysteria. Interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl View Post
    So, you read Emergency Physician's Monthly to handle your hysteria. Interesting.

    you will never be normal until you are honest with yourself

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumpy View Post
    No matter what proof anyone has of illegals breaking the laws by voting or food stamps etc. the left will deny it happens.
    They deny that illegals (non-citizens) vote but they do and an illegal woman in Texas has been sentenced to eight years in jail for doing so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by katzgar View Post
    you will never be normal until you are honest with yourself
    Here's some honesty, I don't read Emergency Physician's Monthly to deal with hysteria. You obviously do.

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