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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    Nope. Actually that is false and a lie. And capitalism has been shown to be far greater than socialism. But you keep fighting for your socialist dream.
    See, you sound exactly like them!

    Capitalism and socialism work in tandem, not one or the other, and no one on my side has proposed replacing one with the other entirely, all we've talked about is creating one single entity that does all administrative reimbursement to health care providers from a single premium pool everyone pays a flat % of their income towards. That's it. That's all M4A does and is. For some unknown reason, you brain-dead morons think that means government control. It doesn't. It's literally a part of the process that you aren't involved with as a patient, that happens after you get your care. For some reason, that scares your panties off, and I don't know why, and you've never been able to articulate why.

    So you create straw men when you do that because you're really a fraud who lacks the ability to think critically about anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LV426 View Post
    See, you sound exactly like them!

    Capitalism and socialism work in tandem, not one or the other, and no one on my side has proposed replacing one with the other entirely, all we've talked about is creating one single entity that does all administrative reimbursement to health care providers from a single premium pool everyone pays a flat % of their income towards. That's it. That's all M4A does and is. For some unknown reason, you brain-dead morons think that means government control. It doesn't. It's literally a part of the process that you aren't involved with as a patient, that happens after you get your care. For some reason, that scares your panties off, and I don't know why, and you've never been able to articulate why.

    So you create straw men when you do that because you're really a fraud who lacks the ability to think critically about anything.
    So to socialists such as yourself socialism not only equals medicare for all? Interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    Blah, blah, blah. Attack, attack, attack. That's all you do, especially after getting schooled ITT.
    You didn't school me or anyone. What happened was I posted something that upset your sensibilities, and instead of having a debate about it, you just said it was wrong according to your standard, in that arrogant, whiny cawacko way you always do.

    I'm always up for having an honest, reasonable debate, but you never are. You prefer to set your own personal standards as the given, and in the rare times you actually do post links, they're always half-truths that you deliberately conceal unless someone like me does due diligence on them.

    Your habit is to post half the story, and hope that no one bothers to look into it. Then when someone does, you get defensive and whiny.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    So to socialists such as yourself socialism not only equals medicare for all? Interesting.
    Medicare is socialism.

    Social Security is socialism.

    These are programs you have no problem with, but were called "socialism" back in the day. In fact, your third favorite President behind Trump and Bush the Dumber called Medicare "socialism" and warned about the dangers of Medicare back in the 1960's. He was completely wrong about it. So since he was wrong then, why the fuck would any of you be right today?

    You just cannot stand it that there's a better way when it comes to health care than the current system, and what upsets you most is that you didn't think of it first. That's why you offer no alternatives to M4A, and why you offer no legitimate attacks on the proposal. Instead, you fall back on the screechiness of Conservatism to label anything that does any good for the public as "socialism".

    You're a fraud and a weakling, and you know it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    What we have here is an idiot.
    What we have here is an idiot Dictator!

    Beto O'Rourke wrote poem asking cow to 'wax my ass' and 'scrub my balls'

    Beto O'Rourke's youthful artistic experiments included a poem pleading for genital grooming and a sacred cow to lactate, according to newly unearthed documents.

    At age 16 in 1988, under the pseudonym - "Psychedelic Warlord" - O'Rourke, now 46, authored "The Song of the Cow" — a bizarre piece of experimental writing that included lines asking for a cow to "buff" and "scrub my balls."

    I need a butt-shine,
    Right now
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    Oh, sacred Cow
    I thirst for you,
    Provide Milk.

    Buff my balls,
    Love the Cow,
    Good fortune for those that do.
    Love me, breathe my feet,
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    Wax my ass,
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    "The Song of the Cow" isn't the only odd piece of written work recently excavated from the former Texas congressman's past. As part of a Reuters investigation published Friday, it was discovered that O'Rourke — who was a member of the hacking group "Cult of the Dead Cow" — wrote a short story about deliberately running over a group of children in his car.

    “As I neared the young ones, I put all my weight on my right foot, keeping the accelerator pedal on the floor until I heard the crashing of the two children on the hood, and then the sharp cry of pain from one of the two. I was so fascinated for a moment, that when after I had stopped my vehicle, I just sat in a daze, sweet visions filling my head," O'Rourke wrote.

    Thankfully for O'Rourke's chances in the Democratic primaries, he is not alone in having a past that contains some unusual writings.

    In 1972, Sen. Bernie Sanders wrote an essay in the Vermont Freeman describing a woman who "fantasizes being raped by 3 men simultaneously." Sanders wrote: "And Men. Men are in pain too. They are thinking, wondering. What is it they want from a woman? Are they at fault? Are they perpetrating this man-woman situation? Are they oppressors? The man is bitter."
    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...crub-my-balls#!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LV426 View Post
    Where's the 3% growth you promised?
    Keep your head in the game, moron. Has 20 years of socialist bullshit cured all the problems caused by capitalism in Venezuela? It’s a simple question. I’ll help you out a little: It HAS accomplished 1 thing socialism always promises, income equality. Everyone down there is equally destitute and starving, except the government, the military and the criminal element
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    Quote Originally Posted by Callinectes Ocasio-Cortez View Post
    Keep your head in the game, moron.
    The game was you promising 3% growth and failing to meet that promise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Callinectes Ocasio-Cortez View Post
    Has 20 years of socialist bullshit cured all the problems caused by capitalism in Venezuela?
    The problem with Venezuela is quite simple; it's too reliant on fossil fuel extraction and production. 95% of Venezuela's exports are barrels of oil, and today they export between 1.5 and 2 million barrels a day.

    Just like how Texas, Oklahoma, and North Dakota all faced the same budgetary problems when the price per barrel dropped in 2016. All those fossil fuel-dependent states relied on revenues from oil to fund their budgets. So when the price of oil drops, so does the revenue from that oil. The result is a massive budget deficit that gets filled either by tax increases, or cuts to social services. Those states chose the latter and the net effect of that are economies that staggered and entered recession (TX did have an economic recession in 2016):

    Texas, Once a Star, Becomes a Drag on the U.S. Economy
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/texas-o...omy-1476264601
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    Quote Originally Posted by Callinectes Ocasio-Cortez View Post
    It HAS accomplished 1 thing socialism always promises, income equality. Everyone down there is equally destitute and starving, except the government, the military and the criminal element
    Venezuela relied on fossil fuels for its chief economic export and output. You're the ones who want that, remember? So when the price of oil falls, as it did in 2016, revenues fell as well. Venezuela needed to diversify its economy. Drilling for more oil isn't going to get Venezuela out of the pickle they are in.

    You cannot drill your way to higher energy prices and thus, higher revenues.

    Socialism has nothing to do with it. It's all pegged to the price per barrel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LV426 View Post
    The game was you promising 3% growth and failing to meet that promise.
    I didn’t promise you a damn thing
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    Quote Originally Posted by Callinectes Ocasio-Cortez View Post
    I didn’t promise you a damn thing
    So tax cuts don't increase economic activity since economic activity didn't increase by 3% last year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Callinectes Ocasio-Cortez View Post
    I didn’t promise you a damn thing
    You never said that growth would be at least 3%?
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    Venezuela's socialism succeeded in income equality.

    "Everyone down there is equally destitute and starving, except the government, the military and the criminal element." Per Callinectes Ocasio-Cortez.

    Spot on Senorita Cortez.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    It is a failure of authoritarianism and A success of American sabotage.
    Its a failure of leadership... not capitalism. Too much arable land in VZ was owned by absentee landlords.
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    Tax cuts take time to affect the GDP. The previous morbidly high corporate tax rates have been set to reasonable rates. New investments in businesses and expansion will increase the GDP.

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