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    Quote Originally Posted by rjhenn View Post
    Yes, you were, and are, duped and conned by a wannabe dictator.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heff View Post
    Unlike you I don't need a politician to tell me what is true or false.
    LOLOLOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Truth is oil companies have bought up millions of leases, from the Gulf of Mexico, all over the west and Alaska. They do not open many of them. It increases their net worth and financial power. But they are not going to glut the market and cut profits. They just want more control over the market and taking leases off the market stops competitors from using them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Callinectes Ocasio-Cortez View Post
    Yep, good point
    How long were you in Arabia?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heff View Post
    You're saying the same shit as Maduro
    Maduro is saying you're so dumb you were conned by a reality TV show host?

    It's not Maduro's fault that the price per barrel of oil dropped. And it's also not Maduro's fault that the American executives who ran citgo's operation in VZ were embezzling money.

    You might be cool with business executives embezzling cash because it has the net result of creating misery for brown people, but I'm not.



    the socialist dictator driving Venezuela into the ground. Duped and conned by a dictator.
    What's more likely?

    That I'm being duped by Maduro, who has no presence in American media?

    OR

    You're being duped by Trump, who does?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    Its a good thing he didn't.. We have a glut on the market now,
    That's the thing, if the price takes a dive, they ease off on drilling. OPEC is doing that right now, which is interesting because Venezuela is(or was)a member of OPEC, and Chavez could have gone to them for advice as to how to avoid or alleviate their current clusterfuck
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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    How long were you in Arabia?
    Not long, maybe 4-6 months over a span of 6 years
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    Quote Originally Posted by Callinectes Ocasio-Cortez View Post
    That's the thing, if the price takes a dive, they ease off on drilling. OPEC is doing that right now, which is interesting because Venezuela is(or was)a member of OPEC, and Chavez could have gone to them for advice as to how to avoid or alleviate their current clusterfuck
    It's funny how Conservatives think asking advice is the same thing as doing something about a bad situation.

    What advice to ask?

    It's pretty clear that VZ cannot do much of anything because it faces sanctions that cripple its ability to diversify its economy. Sanctions you support even though at the same time, you're saying they should do things differently like "ask advice".
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    Quote Originally Posted by LV426 View Post
    Maduro is saying you're so dumb you were conned by a reality TV show host?

    It's not Maduro's fault that the price per barrel of oil dropped. And it's also not Maduro's fault that the American executives who ran citgo's operation in VZ were embezzling money.

    You might be cool with business executives embezzling cash because it has the net result of creating misery for brown people, but I'm not.





    What's more likely?

    That I'm being duped by Maduro, who has no presence in American media?

    OR

    You're being duped by Trump, who does?
    The question is what's wrong with Trump that he'd pile on instead of helping?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Callinectes Ocasio-Cortez View Post
    This is my point dumb ass! Capitalism has contingencies for this crap! Socialist governments with oil and other resources are like crack addicted lottery winners, they cash in the ticket and throw parties until the money runs out. Ever wonder why there are no violent revolutions in America when we have a recession? You know why we have the “luxury” to give a $500M “handout” to Texas? Because of fiscal discipline idiot, and CONSERVATIVE budgeting. You can’t divvy up the treasury among the proletariat just because they made you the supreme dictator, that’s piracy.(it’s also exactly what your “demoronic socialists” are trying to pull for 2020)
    Yeah, fiscal discipline and CONSERVATIVE budgeting that has us $20 trillion in the hole, and increasing at an historically high rate. Trump appears to be trying to force the country into bankruptcy, just like he did for his other businesses. And don't be fooled. He regards the U.S. as just another business to run into the ground.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    The question is what's wrong with Trump that he'd pile on instead of helping?
    Any excuse to make brown people suffer, he will do it.

    It's why he didn't lift a finger to help Puerto Rico, but flew down to Alabama literally the day after the tornadoes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rjhenn View Post
    Yeah, fiscal discipline and CONSERVATIVE budgeting that has us $20 trillion in the hole, and increasing at an historically high rate. Trump appears to be trying to force the country into bankruptcy, just like he did for his other businesses. And don't be fooled. He regards the U.S. as just another business to run into the ground.
    The other stupid thing that clown forgot was that the $500M Texas got in federal welfare was borrowed because of the deficit caused by tax cuts.

    Conservative budgeting = deficit spending
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    Quote Originally Posted by Callinectes Ocasio-Cortez View Post
    Not long, maybe 4-6 months over a span of 6 years
    I was there nearly 2 decades.. mostly in the Eastern Province, but I have been all over the country.

    Were you in the military?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    I was there nearly 2 decades.. mostly in the Eastern Province, but I have been all over the country.

    Were you in the military?
    Yes
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    Quote Originally Posted by LV426 View Post
    Any excuse to make brown people suffer, he will do it.

    It's why he didn't lift a finger to help Puerto Rico, but flew down to Alabama literally the day after the tornadoes.
    Well, he did throw them paper towels. I think its more than that. I think Trump has some kind of God complex.
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