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    Default Mueller's house of cards in the news



    Fired FBI agent Peter Strzok told Congress last year that the agency "did not have access" to Clinton Foundation emails that were on Hillary Clinton's private server because of a consent agreement "negotiated between the Department of Justice attorneys and counsel for Clinton."

    That revelation was revealed in newly released congressional transcripts from Strzok's closed-door testimony at the House Judiciary Committee on June 27, 2018.

    When asked by then-majority general counsel Zachary Somers if “the Clinton Foundation was on the server”, Strzok testified that he believed it was “on one of the servers, if not the others.” But Strzok stressed that due to an agreement between the DOJ and Clinton, they were not allowed to search Clinton Foundation emails for information that could help in their investigation.

    The FBI would have been investigating Clinton's emails in 2016, when President Obama was still in office and when Clinton was running for president against then-candidate Donald Trump.

    Somers asked oin the 2018 hearing: “Were you given access to those emails as part of the investigation?”

    Strzok replied: “We were not. We did not have access," according to the transcript.

    The FBI’s investigation into Clinton, called the “Midyear Exam,” focused on whether she had mishandled classified information in emails that were sent and received through her private server.

    Strzok testified that “according to the [DOJ] attorneys, we lacked probable cause to get a search warrant for those servers and projected that either it would take a very long time and/or it would be impossible to get to the point where we could obtain probable cause to get a warrant.”

    Strzok testified that the FBI did not have immediate access to Clinton’s servers, but rather “obtained possession of the servers over time.”

    Although the FBI would eventually gain possession of Clinton’s server, it was only according to terms negotiated with Clinton’s lawyers. Strzok said that the FBI “had it voluntarily in the context — in the case of the servers, voluntarily in the context of consent that was worked out between DOJ attorneys and counsel for Secretary Clinton.”

    Strzok testified that the FBI’s ability to search these emails was constrained. He said that there was “a significant filter team that was put in place to work through the various terms of the various consent agreements.”

    He listed just some of the restrictions placed on the FBI’s search of Clinton’s emails: “Those could be — and this is not an exclusive list — limits of domains, of date ranges, of people. But that’s not an exclusive list.”

    Despite those constraints, Strzok said the FBI was being "aggressive" in its investigation.

    “The FBI team was certainly, I think, comparatively aggressive, which is my experience," he said. "Agents tend to be much more aggressive in trying to get information. Prosecutors look at it from a different set of perspectives."

    Strzok said that the FBI's investigators didn't want to be restrained at all. "You know, we wanted — as an investigator, I want as much information as I can get," he said. "I don’t want limitations. I don’t want you to tell me a date range is off limits, a domain is off limits, anything is."

    FBI Director James Comey would clear Clinton in a speech on July 5, 2016. He would listed Clinton’s numerous missteps, including the fact that 110 emails in 52 email chains contained classified information at the time they were sent or received by Clinton, but he would not recommend charging her with any crimes.

    The release of Strzok’s testimony today followed the release of FBI lawyer Lisa Page’s testimony earlier this week.

    Among the numerous revelations in Page’s testimony was the fact that officials at the FBI — including then Director James Comey — were discussing possible Espionage Act charges against Hillary Clinton, citing “gross negligence," but the Justice Department shut them down.


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    It does seem lots of new information is coming to the forefront about some of the illegal activities of the Obama administration doesn't it?

    I have always maintained that once it was learned that Hillary was operating an illegal server and it was determined that Obama was sending her classified information on said server, his administration was always going to circle the wagons for Crooked Hillary. If Crooked Hillary goes down, she takes Obama down with her.

    Had it not been for Benghazi, Crooked Hillary might have been President.

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    Don't liberals claim that the Hildebeast lost because the FBI "elected" not to refer her for prosecution?

    Of course they don't take into account the fact that Comey edited his recommendation to remove the damning language that would have required her to be be charged.

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    Isn't that the bad guy who is hated by the reds and cannot be trusted? Now you love him? Comey, of course, killed Hillary's campaign.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Comey, of course, killed Hillary's campaign.
    So now Comey is a russian agent?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post


    Fired FBI agent Peter Strzok told Congress last year that the agency "did not have access" to Clinton Foundation emails that were on Hillary Clinton's private server because of a consent agreement "negotiated between the Department of Justice attorneys and counsel for Clinton."

    That revelation was revealed in newly released congressional transcripts from Strzok's closed-door testimony at the House Judiciary Committee on June 27, 2018.

    When asked by then-majority general counsel Zachary Somers if “the Clinton Foundation was on the server”, Strzok testified that he believed it was “on one of the servers, if not the others.” But Strzok stressed that due to an agreement between the DOJ and Clinton, they were not allowed to search Clinton Foundation emails for information that could help in their investigation.

    The FBI would have been investigating Clinton's emails in 2016, when President Obama was still in office and when Clinton was running for president against then-candidate Donald Trump.

    Somers asked oin the 2018 hearing: “Were you given access to those emails as part of the investigation?”

    Strzok replied: “We were not. We did not have access," according to the transcript.

    The FBI’s investigation into Clinton, called the “Midyear Exam,” focused on whether she had mishandled classified information in emails that were sent and received through her private server.

    Strzok testified that “according to the [DOJ] attorneys, we lacked probable cause to get a search warrant for those servers and projected that either it would take a very long time and/or it would be impossible to get to the point where we could obtain probable cause to get a warrant.”

    Strzok testified that the FBI did not have immediate access to Clinton’s servers, but rather “obtained possession of the servers over time.”

    Although the FBI would eventually gain possession of Clinton’s server, it was only according to terms negotiated with Clinton’s lawyers. Strzok said that the FBI “had it voluntarily in the context — in the case of the servers, voluntarily in the context of consent that was worked out between DOJ attorneys and counsel for Secretary Clinton.”

    Strzok testified that the FBI’s ability to search these emails was constrained. He said that there was “a significant filter team that was put in place to work through the various terms of the various consent agreements.”

    He listed just some of the restrictions placed on the FBI’s search of Clinton’s emails: “Those could be — and this is not an exclusive list — limits of domains, of date ranges, of people. But that’s not an exclusive list.”

    Despite those constraints, Strzok said the FBI was being "aggressive" in its investigation.

    “The FBI team was certainly, I think, comparatively aggressive, which is my experience," he said. "Agents tend to be much more aggressive in trying to get information. Prosecutors look at it from a different set of perspectives."

    Strzok said that the FBI's investigators didn't want to be restrained at all. "You know, we wanted — as an investigator, I want as much information as I can get," he said. "I don’t want limitations. I don’t want you to tell me a date range is off limits, a domain is off limits, anything is."

    FBI Director James Comey would clear Clinton in a speech on July 5, 2016. He would listed Clinton’s numerous missteps, including the fact that 110 emails in 52 email chains contained classified information at the time they were sent or received by Clinton, but he would not recommend charging her with any crimes.

    The release of Strzok’s testimony today followed the release of FBI lawyer Lisa Page’s testimony earlier this week.

    Among the numerous revelations in Page’s testimony was the fact that officials at the FBI — including then Director James Comey — were discussing possible Espionage Act charges against Hillary Clinton, citing “gross negligence," but the Justice Department shut them down.


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    trump lost the popular vote get over it

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    Quote Originally Posted by katzgar View Post
    trump lost the popular vote get over it
    "When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."


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    Unless you just can't stand the idea of "ni**ers" teaching white kids.


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    Address the topic, not other posters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nerdberg View Post
    Isn't that the bad guy who is hated by the reds and cannot be trusted? Now you love him?
    Is that what I said?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nerdberg View Post
    Comey, of course, killed Hillary's campaign.
    Thanks for proving my point.

    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    Don't liberals claim that the Hildebeast lost because the FBI "elected" not to refer her for prosecution?

    Of course they don't take into account the fact that Comey edited his recommendation to remove the damning language that would have required her to be be charged.

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    Quote Originally Posted by katzgutz View Post
    trump lost the popular vote get over it
    I'm not the one crying about the Electoral College, grandpa.

    DEMOCRAT introduces bill to eliminate Electoral College


    https://tinyurl.com/y5qzt5yt


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    Quote Originally Posted by I Love America View Post
    It does seem lots of new information is coming to the forefront about some of the illegal activities of the Obama administration doesn't it?

    I have always maintained that once it was learned that Hillary was operating an illegal server and it was determined that Obama was sending her classified information on said server, his administration was always going to circle the wagons for Crooked Hillary. If Crooked Hillary goes down, she takes Obama down with her.

    Had it not been for Benghazi, Crooked Hillary might have been President.
    LOLOL

    When asked by then-majority general counsel Zachary Somers if “the Clinton Foundation was on the server”, Strzok testified that he believed it was “on one of the servers, if not the others.”

    Can you people get any dumber?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    I'm not the one crying about the Electoral College, grandpa.

    DEMOCRAT introduces bill to eliminate Electoral College


    https://tinyurl.com/y5qzt5yt

    In 2012 Trump ranted and raved about how we should get rid of the Electoral College.
    He who is the author of a war lets loose the whole contagion of hell and opens a vein that bleeds a nation to death. Thomas Paine

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    Quote Originally Posted by krudzu View Post
    In 2012 Trump ranted and raved about how we should get rid of the Electoral College.
    So you say.

    Did he introduce any legislation to eliminate it?

    Didn't think so.

    You have zero credibility.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    In 2012 Trump ranted and raved about how we should get rid of the Electoral College.
    Eh. It's Legion.

    Being a Fetal Alcohol Syndrome baby hasn't done him any favors.

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    Default The rats are leaving the house of cards, it seems

    Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s top prosecutor Andrew Weissmann will be leaving his role at the special counsel’s office and Justice Department.

    Spokesman Peter Carr said that “Andrew Weissmann will be concluding his detail to the Special Counsel’s Office in the near future.” Carr did not elaborate.


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    Strzok testified that “according to the [DOJ] attorneys, we lacked probable cause to get a search warrant for those servers and projected that either it would take a very long time and/or it would be impossible to get to the point where we could obtain probable cause to get a warrant.”
    bullshit. they had a counterintelligence investigation ALREADY GOING ON, and could have seized the DNC server for "national security"

    It's obvious the FBI contorted itself along with DoJ not to go after Clinton. then they used CrowdStrike anyhow ! despite is already know bad forensics

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