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    Quote Originally Posted by ralfy View Post
    Ironically, following your reference to forefathers and mothers, then there should be no wall and no social welfare system. That also means no Congress, immigration policies, and federal gov't. And with no federal money, there will be multiple currencies issued by various banks. Also, no standing army.
    you make no sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ralfy View Post
    Trump's immigration policy includes making changes to legal immigration, i.e., with a goal to decrease it by 50 pct. In short, his policy is not simply to protect borders but to decrease immigration in general.

    Add to this his economic policy of restricting free trade, and we have someone who is essentially a protectionist. Thus, his strategy appears to be similar to that followed by China and other countries that employed mercantilism.

    The problem is that the U.S. dollar is the global reserve currency, which means the economy operates through the opposite of mercantilism and likely because of the Triffin dilemma.
    the world is rejecting the globalist race to hell, sorry, zealot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robo View Post
    I’d actually prefer to end the stupid violent expensive drug war, decriminalize all drugs and allow each state to regulate and deal with whatever drug issues exist in their particular state. They already regulate and control one of the worst drugs available to humankind, booze. However, until that sanity takes place if ever, I’ll support doing whatever it takes for the Congress and President in coordination together keeping the criminal foreign drug runners out of the country, even though you prefer an open border for their easy access and sanctuary cities and states to protect them from jail and deportation.



    More BIG government socialist welfare, right? Why not just expect everybody to be responsible for themselves?




    I think you need to check up on where the majority of opiates are coming from. I think they’re actually coming across our border to the south from China through Mexico. China is supplying the Mexican drug runners. That’s not to say that some of it is not coming also from American manufactures

    Virtually all of the human trafficking and MS13 gang killers are coming across our southern border and no sane folk believe that middle eastern terrorist aren’t mixing in the INVASION! But you have proven you couldn’t care less. You’d prefer it all continue as long as the Democrats can register them to vote and Trump’s agenda to defend the nation is prevented.
    I think you need to check where most opiates are coming from.https://www.briarwooddetox.com/blog/...cking-sources/ The opioid epidemic is a product of overprescribing. Doctors passed out oxycodone,Morphine and other pain dampeners by the billion. I am sure you do not know about small towns like Williamston, W,Va ,population 3200, that was sent 20.8 million hydrocodone and oxy in a year? That is not unique. Lots of small towns have become drug hubs. They are getting prescription drugs. I tire of correcting you. Do some damn homework before you post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robo View Post
    I could be in favor of open borders IF, the only people coming across the border were good folk just wanting to work, be personally responsible for themselves and their families, and wanted to assimilate into American society and learn to speak English, and strive for the American Dream. But in the name of sanity and common sense, I have to reject and oppose passionately any such notion of supporting an open borders policy when the immigrants wanting to cross the border are infiltrated by MS13 thugs and gang killers, drug runners and human traffickers and my country by way of a gang of political morons, thieves and crooked vote buying bastards has created a social welfare system to attract all comers, sanctuary cities to hide the criminals and politicians that ignore and oppose federal immigration law and even are attempting to abolish the immigration cops that arrest and deport the scumbags that violate Americas laws, feed off of the welfare system and even murder American citizens.

    I don’t really much care if the violent scumbags among the good folks are a small percentage of the total. It’s factual that they’re being protected by American idiot politicians that create sanctuary cities and states it’s also factual that even the good folk among them are overwhelming the social welfare system. Our forefathers and mothers came from allover the globe long before there was a social welfare system, They assimilated quickly, they were self supporting, they worked hard and learned English they became Americans. The crooks and killers among them were arrested, jailed and deported or executed or died in the slammer. They suffered through poverty and discrimination and became stronger and more successful in spite and because of it.

    Today’s world requires the withholding/abolishing of all federal money sent to sanctuary cities and states. It requires an American Congress committed to overhauling America’s immigration policies YESTERDAY! It requires federal criminal actions/prosecutions be taken against any politician that prevents or hinders the border and immigration officers from preventing illegal entry into the country and the arrest and jailing and deportation of illegal immigrants. And it absolutely requires BUILD THE DAMNED WALL!!!!!

    You do love your stupid

    Your drugs are confusing you yet again
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    I think you need to check where most opiates are coming from.https://www.briarwooddetox.com/blog/...cking-sources/ The opioid epidemic is a product of overprescribing. Doctors passed out oxycodone,Morphine and other pain dampeners by the billion. I am sure you do not know about small towns like Williamston, W,Va ,population 3200, that was sent 20.8 million hydrocodone and oxy in a year? That is not unique. Lots of small towns have become drug hubs. They are getting prescription drugs. I tire of correcting you. Do some damn homework before you post.
    Problem is Nordi buddy, that's not the origin of the opiates. The origin is CHINA and the delivery route is across the border with Mexico.
    "Government is force by definition and corruption by nature. The bigger the government, the greater the force and the greater the corruption."

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    Most heroin in U.S. now comes across Mexican border, Rob Portman says
    By Nadia Pflaum on Monday, March 14th, 2016 at 1:24 p.m.

    Ohio Sen. Rob Portman has been busy in Washington touting the Comprehensive Addiction Recovery Act in response to a shocking number of heroin overdoses in Ohio.

    The bill just passed in the Senate, 94-1. (Nebraska Sen. Ben Sasse was the sole "nay," saying he believes that fighting addiction is a local issue.)

    Ohio ranks high on the list of states reeling from the national epidemic. In Montgomery County, which encompasses Dayton, Ohio, heroin-related deaths increased 225 percent between 2011 and 2015.

    Back in the 1970s, the heroin on U.S. streets was the "black tar" variety, and much of it came from southeast Asia. In 2010, 80 percent of the heroin in the world came from poppy fields in Afghanistan, according to the Office of National Drug Control Policy.

    So when Portman said that most of the heroin in America comes from Mexico’s border, we were skeptical.

    Portman, it turns out, has done his homework. The Drug Enforcement Administration’s National Drug Threat Assessment of 2015 says that Mexico is the primary supplier of heroin to the United States. https://www.politifact.com/ohio/stat...exican-border/

    Where Do Opioids Come From: Cartels, China, or Neighbors
    delphihealthgroup.com/blog/where-do-opioids-come...
    Among heroin, fentanyl, and prescription opioids, the opioid crisis continues to be a major threat to the lives and health of Americans. But where do opioids come from? The answers include Mexican cartels, Chinese manufacturers, and even your next door neighbor.
    "Government is force by definition and corruption by nature. The bigger the government, the greater the force and the greater the corruption."

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    Quote Originally Posted by katzgar View Post
    You do love your stupid
    Actually, I never loved you and never will!
    "Government is force by definition and corruption by nature. The bigger the government, the greater the force and the greater the corruption."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robo View Post
    Problem is Nordi buddy, that's not the origin of the opiates. The origin is CHINA and the delivery route is across the border with Mexico.
    You are fucking flat out wrong again. Here is an example in Florida. https://www.washingtonpost.com/graph...-mallinckrodt/
    I am tempted to help you out of your stupid self dug hole, but not yet.

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    Here is what it is about. https://www.npr.org/2018/12/31/68074...wsuits-in-2019 I know you will not understand the facts, Robo. But I try to help you.

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    And here is what Ohio is doing about it. https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-...pioid-epidemic C'mon Robo shock us all and learn something real.

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