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    ...on this date in history, in 44BC, the republicans in the Roman Senate killed Julius Caesar.

    Worth a mention.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    ...on this date in history, in 44BC, the republicans in the Roman Senate killed Julius Caesar.

    Worth a mention.


    Just an FYI Frank....that's a statue of Octavian...Not Julius Caesar. Also they weren't "Republicans" in the sense that they were a political party. They were Republicans in that they desired to protect the Oligarchic structure of the Roman Republic Senatorial Class. Historians refer to them as the "Optimates" but that's actually an anachronism as organized political parties, as we know them today, did not exist at that time in history.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mott the Hoople View Post
    Just an FYI Frank....that's a statue of Octavian...Not Julius Caesar. Also they weren't "Republicans" in the sense that they were a political party. They were Republicans in that they desired to protect the Oligarchic structure of the Roman Republic Senatorial Class. Historians refer to them as the "Optimates" but that's actually an anachronism as organized political parties, as we know them today, did not exist at that time in history.
    YOU ARE WRONG

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Augustus_of_Prima_Porta



    why do you do this stupid shit Mott?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mott the Hoople View Post
    Just an FYI Frank....that's a statue of Octavian...Not Julius Caesar. Also they weren't "Republicans" in the sense that they were a political party. They were Republicans in that they desired to protect the Oligarchic structure of the Roman Republic Senatorial Class. Historians refer to them as the "Optimates" but that's actually an anachronism as organized political parties, as we know them today, did not exist at that time in history.
    Fuck...I screwed up with Augustus.

    But they were republicans (small "r'). They wanted the republic to continue.

    Augustus had other ideas...and his prevailed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    YOU ARE WRONG

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Augustus_of_Prima_Porta



    why do you do this stupid shit Mott?
    Octavian and Augustus were the same person, Evince. Mott was just calling my mistake to my attention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    Octavian and Augustus were the same person, Evince. Mott was just calling my mistake to my attention.
    you are correct


    I have never studied this time in much detail

    thank you for schooling me today

    Julius was his father

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    Augustus was born Gaius Octavius Thurinus into an old and wealthy equestrian branch of the plebeian gens Octavia. His maternal great-uncle Julius Caesar was assassinated in 44 BC, and Octavius was named in Caesar's will as his adopted son and heir.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mott the Hoople View Post
    Just an FYI Frank....that's a statue of Octavian...Not Julius Caesar. Also they weren't "Republicans" in the sense that they were a political party. They were Republicans in that they desired to protect the Oligarchic structure of the Roman Republic Senatorial Class. Historians refer to them as the "Optimates" but that's actually an anachronism as organized political parties, as we know them today, did not exist at that time in history.
    sorry Mott


    I fucked it all up

    sorry Im such a bitch some times

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mott the Hoople View Post
    Just an FYI Frank....that's a statue of Octavian...Not Julius Caesar. Also they weren't "Republicans" in the sense that they were a political party. They were Republicans in that they desired to protect the Oligarchic structure of the Roman Republic Senatorial Class. Historians refer to them as the "Optimates" but that's actually an anachronism as organized political parties, as we know them today, did not exist at that time in history.
    Frank's a dumbass that, gladly, suffers from Alzheimers. That means his time is short.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    you are correct


    I have never studied this time in much detail

    thank you for schooling me today

    Julius was his father
    I've read dozens and dozens of books on ancient Rome...both fiction and non-fiction. It is my favorite history area.

    Most of us of Italian heritage like to think we are descendants of Roman citizens...but it is just as likely we come from slaves.

    Whatever!

    Wouldn't it be great to be able to go back and see each ancestor...to see the successes and failures of those who came before us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    I've read dozens and dozens of books on ancient Rome...both fiction and non-fiction. It is my favorite history area.

    Most of us of Italian heritage like to think we are descendants of Roman citizens...but it is just as likely we come from slaves.

    Whatever!

    Wouldn't it be great to be able to go back and see each ancestor...to see the successes and failures of those who came before us.
    it would


    and your are right about its importance and impact on great thought



    I am supposed to be of Irish blood

    from the way of Vikings


    might explain some of my marauding style

    I have actually not studied much of that era either


    sorry again Mott

    sorry for Fucking up your thread with my stupid Frank

    It is a good thread idea

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    YOU ARE WRONG

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Augustus_of_Prima_Porta



    why do you do this stupid shit Mott?
    I havn't faintest clue what you're talking about Desh. In which particular was I mistaken?
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