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    Quote Originally Posted by RB 60 View Post
    She's one of the biggest hateful, lying hypocrites on this forum.
    Christiefan owns the number one spot there lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Soul View Post
    Christiefan owns the number one spot there lol.
    She's not nearly as hateful as Fowl, still on the wrong side of the political fence nonetheless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Soul View Post
    Article I Section 8. Post offices and post roads, raise and support armies, provide and maintain a Navy, Militia.

    Are you suggesting that is the only socialism allowed?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    Nope. Communism is a political system and socialism is an economic system. "Real" communism cannot exist without a socialist economic system even though communist nations like China have adopted many elements of capitalism such as free market and private ownership of large segments of major industries.

    A nation can have government owned airlines and a democratic political system and it is not communist.

    Today communism is not much more than rule by the communist party with whatever economic system they choose to run. The authoritarian/totalitarian elements of communist nations are not unique to communism but were imposed on nations with long histories of authoritarian control.
    This is simply untrue, Communism requires state planning and ownership of all private property. It may be that China is not truly communist, but that is what Communism is/was.

    All political systems are moving toward a mix, it is simply the way of survival. Pure Communism has ceased to exist as has pure capitalism. All governments now operate with a mix, and the only argument is what that mix is. There is no black and white or pure bad and pure good when it comes to political system ideology.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    Are you suggesting that is the only socialism allowed?
    Unless there is a Constitutional amendment, yes on the Federal level. Now if California, or any other state, wants to go full commie then I don't have a problem with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    This is simply untrue, Communism requires state planning and ownership of all private property. It may be that China is not truly communist, but that is what Communism is/was.

    All political systems are moving toward a mix, it is simply the way of survival. Pure Communism has ceased to exist as has pure capitalism. All governments now operate with a mix, and the only argument is what that mix is. There is no black and white or pure bad and pure good when it comes to political system ideology.
    And state ownership of an airline does not necessarily mean there is state planning and ownership of all private property. So a government airline does not mean it is communism as you claimed. Also, the "no private property" is simply an abstract concept that does not exist in reality.

    Some socialist systems do not have central planning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    Why is Trump using the Federal Government to tell private companies if they can or cannot fly airplanes they own?

    These are private corporations who own these airplanes... Should they not be free to make the choice?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    Why is Trump using the Federal Government to tell private companies if they can or cannot fly airplanes they own?

    These are private corporations who own these airplanes... Should they not be free to make the choice?
    This is a pro-capitalist move enforcing contract law between the airlines and the American public.
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    Socialism is just the modern word for monarchy.

    D.C. has become a Guild System with an hierarchy and line of accession much like the Royal Court or priestly classes.

    Private citizens are perfectly able of doing a better job without "apprenticing".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdog View Post
    This is a pro-capitalist move enforcing contract law between the airlines and the American public.
    False

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    False
    Wrong.

    Truth in advertising and contract law enforcement are pro capitalist.
    "I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a storybook, man."
    — Joe Biden on Obama.

    Socialism is just the modern word for monarchy.

    D.C. has become a Guild System with an hierarchy and line of accession much like the Royal Court or priestly classes.

    Private citizens are perfectly able of doing a better job without "apprenticing".

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