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    Boeing: Europe joins wave of countries grounding the 737 Max



    The European Union Aviation Safety Agency has suspended the Boeing 737 Max from flying into or over its airspace "to ensure the safety of passengers".

    It joins the UK's Civil Aviation Authority (CAA) in banning the plane.

    It comes after an Ethiopian Airlines plane crashed on Sunday, killing 157 people on board. It was the second fatal accident involving the 737 Max 8 model in less than five months.

    US officials say the aircraft are still safe to fly.

    France and Germany announced earlier that they had grounded the jets, joining similar decisions by other nations such as China.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-47536502

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    Pressure mounts on US FAA to ground Boeing 737 MAX 8

    US senators call on Federal Aviation Administration to ground the plan after crash in Ethiopia killed all 157 on board.

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/...163141841.html
    C'mon- it's only a few hundred dead passengers compared to the thousands who have flown without dying.

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    The United States said there is "no basis" to ground Boeing 737 MAX aeroplanes, after a second crash involving the model in less than five months killed everyone on board.

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/...074038600.html
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    I actually flew on a Thai Lion Air 737 Max-9 in February. There is nothing inherently unsafe about the plane except for the fact that the CFM LEAP engines are bigger and heavier requiring redesigned wings, landing gear and pylons. This required new anti-stall software which some lesser experienced pilots have found difficult to work with.

    https://www.cnbc.com/video/2019/03/1...ys-expert.html

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    I'm sure that an asshole braggart's holiday experiences won't go far towards comforting the families and friends of the victims of an aircraft which has been banned from flying over most of the countries in the world- put don't let that deflect from your posturing.
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    But WE aren't! Hummm. Of course we don't have an FAA Director. The acting has been there now for 26 months. Remember when TRUMP was going to make HIS PILOT that flew his plane the head of the FAA? After everyone laughed out loud AND they found out TRUMP'S PLANE (his 2nd plane) was unregistered (so to speak) they really laughed out loud. That was one of his early announcement picks.

    It might be worth noting, anyone remember the TRUMP Shuttle? It lasted about 3 YEARS before it went bellyup. It got sold off, broken up and absorbed among other airlines. He couldn't make a 'good deal' and was left with about A HUNDRED MILL. Eventually he reneged on that. It all happened about the same time as his casinos going down. He couldn't afford 2 failing enterprises at once. But Trump knows all about "airlines".


    Donald Trump’s Jet, a Regular on the Campaign Trail, Isn’t Registered to Fly

    Donald J. Trump exiting his Cessna jet on Jan. 24. Records kept with the Federal Aviation Administration show that the registration on the plane lapsed on Jan. 31.CreditEric Thayer for The New York Times




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    Donald J. Trump exiting his Cessna jet on Jan. 24. Records kept with the Federal Aviation Administration show that the registration on the plane lapsed on Jan. 31.CreditCreditEric Thayer for The New York Times

    By Susanne Craig



    • April 19, 2016



    Over the past several months, Donald J. Trump has crisscrossed the country making dozens of campaign stops in places and Jackson, Miss., often in his sleek Cessna jet. There is just one hitch: The plane’s registration is expired. Records kept with the Federal Aviation Administration show the aircraft’s registration lapsed on Jan. 31. Laura J. Brown, a spokeswoman for the Federal Aviation Administration, confirmed that the plane’s registration was not in good standing and said the owner had not renewed it.

    With few exceptions, aircraft must be registered in order to fly. Mr. Trump’s plane could be grounded for days, or even months, while the issue is sorted out. In the event of an accident, the company that insures the jet could cite the lapsed registration to decline any claims.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Centerleftfl View Post
    But WE aren't! Hummm. Of course we don't have an FAA Director. The acting has been there now for 26 months. Remember when TRUMP was going to make HIS PILOT that flew his plane the head of the FAA? After everyone laughed out loud AND they found out TRUMP'S PLANE was 'unregistered' (so to speak) they really laughed out loud. That was one of his early announcement picks.
    You need to see a professional about that severe case of TDS and stupid you have.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Centerleftfl View Post
    But WE aren't! Hummm. Of course we don't have an FAA Director. The acting has been there now for 26 months. Remember when TRUMP was going to make HIS PILOT that flew his plane the head of the FAA? After everyone laughed out loud AND they found out TRUMP'S PLANE was 'unregistered' (so to speak) they really laughed out loud. That was one of his early announcement picks.
    Do you ever stop spouting bollocks? The plane is safe enough, those accidents were mostly the result of pilot inexperience and unfamiliarity with the Max series. Have you ever stopped to ask yourself why both accidents happened on brand new aircraft within weeks of delivery? Having said that the planes ought to be grounded until the new anti-stall modifications are carried out.

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    Trump wants to go back to the old style airplanes, he does not know crashes were more common.
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    Ethiopian Airlines: Ground all Boeing 737 Max 8 jets, says CEO

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47553396
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    US President Donald Trump has said the US Federal Aviation Administration will ground the Boeing 737 Max 8 - the aircraft in Sunday's crash in Ethiopia.

    The FAA had previously held out while many countries banned the Max 8 from flying over their airspace.

    All 157 people on board the Ethiopian Airlines flight were killed when it crashed just minutes after take-off.

    It was the second fatal Max 8 disaster in six months, after one crashed over Indonesia in October, killing 189.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47562727

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    Quote Originally Posted by Centerleftfl View Post
    But WE aren't! Hummm. Of course we don't have an FAA Director. The acting has been there now for 26 months. Remember when TRUMP was going to make HIS PILOT that flew his plane the head of the FAA? After everyone laughed out loud AND they found out TRUMP'S PLANE (his 2nd plane) was unregistered (so to speak) they really laughed out loud. That was one of his early announcement picks.

    It might be worth noting, anyone remember the TRUMP Shuttle? It lasted about 3 YEARS before it went bellyup. It got sold off, broken up and absorbed among other airlines. He couldn't make a 'good deal' and was left with about A HUNDRED MILL. Eventually he reneged on that. It all happened about the same time as his casinos going down. He couldn't afford 2 failing enterprises at once. But Trump knows all about "airlines".


    Donald Trump’s Jet, a Regular on the Campaign Trail, Isn’t Registered to Fly

    Donald J. Trump exiting his Cessna jet on Jan. 24. Records kept with the Federal Aviation Administration show that the registration on the plane lapsed on Jan. 31.CreditEric Thayer for The New York Times




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    Donald J. Trump exiting his Cessna jet on Jan. 24. Records kept with the Federal Aviation Administration show that the registration on the plane lapsed on Jan. 31.CreditCreditEric Thayer for The New York Times

    By Susanne Craig



    • April 19, 2016



    Over the past several months, Donald J. Trump has crisscrossed the country making dozens of campaign stops in places and Jackson, Miss., often in his sleek Cessna jet. There is just one hitch: The plane’s registration is expired. Records kept with the Federal Aviation Administration show the aircraft’s registration lapsed on Jan. 31. Laura J. Brown, a spokeswoman for the Federal Aviation Administration, confirmed that the plane’s registration was not in good standing and said the owner had not renewed it.

    With few exceptions, aircraft must be registered in order to fly. Mr. Trump’s plane could be grounded for days, or even months, while the issue is sorted out. In the event of an accident, the company that insures the jet could cite the lapsed registration to decline any claims.


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    Leave it too the nut-bags to make an airplane crash in Ethiopia about trump

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    Quote Originally Posted by Centerleftfl View Post
    But WE aren't! Hummm. Of course we don't have an FAA Director. The acting has been there now for 26 months. Remember when TRUMP was going to make HIS PILOT that flew his plane the head of the FAA? After everyone laughed out loud AND they found out TRUMP'S PLANE (his 2nd plane) was unregistered (so to speak) they really laughed out loud. That was one of his early announcement picks.

    It might be worth noting, anyone remember the TRUMP Shuttle? It lasted about 3 YEARS before it went bellyup. It got sold off, broken up and absorbed among other airlines. He couldn't make a 'good deal' and was left with about A HUNDRED MILL. Eventually he reneged on that. It all happened about the same time as his casinos going down. He couldn't afford 2 failing enterprises at once. But Trump knows all about "airlines".


    Donald Trump’s Jet, a Regular on the Campaign Trail, Isn’t Registered to Fly

    Donald J. Trump exiting his Cessna jet on Jan. 24. Records kept with the Federal Aviation Administration show that the registration on the plane lapsed on Jan. 31.CreditEric Thayer for The New York Times




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    Donald J. Trump exiting his Cessna jet on Jan. 24. Records kept with the Federal Aviation Administration show that the registration on the plane lapsed on Jan. 31.CreditCreditEric Thayer for The New York Times

    By Susanne Craig



    • April 19, 2016



    Over the past several months, Donald J. Trump has crisscrossed the country making dozens of campaign stops in places and Jackson, Miss., often in his sleek Cessna jet. There is just one hitch: The plane’s registration is expired. Records kept with the Federal Aviation Administration show the aircraft’s registration lapsed on Jan. 31. Laura J. Brown, a spokeswoman for the Federal Aviation Administration, confirmed that the plane’s registration was not in good standing and said the owner had not renewed it.

    With few exceptions, aircraft must be registered in order to fly. Mr. Trump’s plane could be grounded for days, or even months, while the issue is sorted out. In the event of an accident, the company that insures the jet could cite the lapsed registration to decline any claims.


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    Donald J. Trump has managed to get his once-grounded Cessna jet back in the air, by selling it — to himself.

    The private jet that Mr. Trump has been using to get to and from many campaign events was grounded last week by the Federal Aviation Administration, after The New York Times reported that its registration had expired on Jan. 31.

    The paperwork problem threatened to ground the 1997 Cessna 750 Citation X for weeks, if not more. But Mr. Trump found a way around this.

    On Friday, the plane was registered to a new owner, DT Endeavor I, according to records kept with the F.A.A. DT Endeavor I is a limited liability company that was registered in Delaware in early January, and is controlled by Mr. Trump.

    He then submitted a new registration from the new company, a move that cleared the way for the Cessna to fly almost immediately.

    “I haven’t flown it, but I can,” Mr. Trump said in an interview on Saturday. He did not mention the sale of the Cessna to the new company but did say the registration issue had been “100 percent” cleared up.

    Registering a plane as a new owner is a different process than re-registering an aircraft, and new owners are often given a temporary registration that would allow immediate flight.

    The wait Mr. Trump avoided could have been lengthy; the F.A.A.’s aircraft registry website says the agency is still processing documents it received in mid-March.

    Indeed, a Cessna used by a narcotics enforcement team of the San Bernardino County Sheriff’s Department in California had its registration expire, like that of Mr. Trump’s Cessna. The department filed the paperwork to renew it in early January, but the plane’s renewal came through on Friday, according to a spokeswoman for the sheriff’s agency, Jodi Miller.

    The legal maneuver by Mr. Trump, the front-runner for the Republican presidential nomination, seems in character, as he prides himself on his ability to work the system. In a Forbes article in 2011, he described his companies’ bankruptcies in a positive light, “Basically I’ve used the laws of the country to my advantage.”

    The Cessna, which was designed to seat eight people, flew to Rhode Island and Pennsylvania on Monday afternoon before Mr. Trump’s rallies in Warwick, R.I., and West Chester, Pa., in advance of the primary elections in those states on Tuesday. Until then the plane had not flown since returning to La Guardia Airport from Mr. Trump’s rally in Buffalo on April 18, according to flight records archived on a flight data website and reviewed by The Times.

    Mr. Trump explained that the plane’s registration lapsed because DJT Operations CX, the limited liability company that until Friday owned the plane, did not receive the F.A.A.’s original renewal notices. They were instead sent to an incorrect address, he said.

    The plane’s new registration expires on April 30, 2019. And in case the F.A.A. might have cause to send out another renewal notice, it should take note: The plane’s new owner shares the same Delaware address as the old owner.


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    Trump GROUNDS all Boeing 737 Max planes - effective immediately - after the US was left as only country in the world still flying them after the Ethiopia Airlines disaster

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ely-crash.html

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