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    Democrats are working overtime trying to separate illegal aliens from federal government jurisdiction:

    House Democrats voted Friday to defend localities that allow illegal immigrants to vote in their elections, turning back a GOP attempt to discourage the practice.

    The vote marks a stunning reversal from just six months ago, when the chamber — then under GOP control — voted to decry illegal immigrant voting.

    “We are prepared to open up the political process and let all of the people come in,” Rep. John Lewis, a Georgia Democrat and hero of the civil rights movement, told colleagues as he led opposition to the GOP measure.

    House votes in favor of illegal immigrant voting
    By Stephen Dinan
    Updated: 11:51 a.m. on Friday, March 8, 2019

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...igrant-voting/

    So how about separating federal election ballots from state and local elections ballots.

    In other words a separate federal ballot would be required listing only the names of candidates for federal offices —— presidents and members of Congress.

    Separating elections by a year would simplify the process. Federal elections would be held in even numbered years, while statewide elections could be held in odd numbered years. The tab for both elections would also be separated. The feds pay for theirs, while state and local governments would pay for theirs.

    I love my suggestion, but I doubt if ACLU parasites would take kindly to losing control of the courts?

    Some illegal immigrants gained a new right of appeal Thursday when a federal appeals court ruled that Congress cannot prevent them from challenging their deportations in federal courts.

    Court gives illegal immigrants new right of appeal before deportation
    By Stephen Dinan
    Thursday, March 7, 2019

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...-right-appeal/

    https://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...14#post2763814

    I can imagine Democrats going bananas when the vote-count in federal elections are properly monitored —— and legitimate. Had the FEC done their job in 1960 JFK would have lost to Richard Nixon, nor would the Chicago sewer rat have gotten away with stealing two elections.

    https://www.google.com/search?source...30.Lfsl-DZzTo8

    Parenthetically, Sixty-five or so years ago U.N.-loving traitors tried to sell the idea that everyone in the world should vote in our presidential elections. (I do not recall anyone saying that Americans should vote in foreign elections.) That was probably the first idiotic U.N. public relations campaign to erase national borders.

    Inevitably, everybody in the world could run for President of the United States regardless of the Eligibility Clause in the U.S. Constitution. In short: No need to abolish the Electoral College. No American would ever become president because a foreigner would always win the popular vote.

    Also, illegal campaign contributions from wealthy foreigners achieved the very thing the U.N. called for decades ago. Each wealthy donor actually gets a lot more than one vote in our elections when you count the influence they get for their money.

    It is no surprise that the United Nations crowd fight like hell to give foreigners huge numbers in order to dilute votes cast by American. The Administration asking the question has Democrats sweating bullets over this one:






    The Supreme Court has agreed to decide whether the Trump administration can add a citizenship question to the 2020 census. The decision grants the administration's request for an immediate review of a lower court's ruling that stopped plans for the question. A hearing is expected to be held in April.

    Supreme Court To Decide Whether 2020 Census Will Include Citizenship Question
    Hansi Lo Wang

    https://www.npr.org/2019/02/15/69265...nship-question

    NOTE:
    Chief Justice Roberts will probably side with the Democrats on the citizenship form. The lawyer pleading the case for the American people should at least ask the Nifty Nine to explain how the number of seats in the House of Representative will be allocated after every illegal alien gets a vote?

    Finally, decades ago a graduated vote like our graduated income tax was proposed. The poor got one vote each while wealthy individuals get seven votes each. Each level in-between got votes according to their wherewithal (2-3-4-5-6). (Serving and retired military personnel would get seven votes each since they fight for the country.) Naturally, the graduated vote proposal went nowhere fast. Rather than pit the poor against the rich —— which the income tax does —— lets pit Americans against parasites:

    Every individual whose major source of income is derived from tax dollars gets one vote each. That means government employees, teachers, and so on. It also means that every private sector parasite living on tax dollars for any reason gets one vote; most especially millionaire executives whose major source of income comes from tax dollars indirectly.

    Every working American whose major source of income is not derived from tax dollars would get between 2 and 6 votes each. If nothing else a graduated vote would make it impossible to steal an election.
    The basic test of freedom is perhaps less in what we are free to do than in what we are free not to do. It is the freedom to refrain, withdraw and abstain which makes a totalitarian regime impossible. Eric Hoffer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flanders View Post
    Democrats are working overtime trying to separate illegal aliens from federal government jurisdiction:

    House Democrats voted Friday to defend localities that allow illegal immigrants to vote in their elections, turning back a GOP attempt to discourage the practice.

    The vote marks a stunning reversal from just six months ago, when the chamber — then under GOP control — voted to decry illegal immigrant voting.

    “We are prepared to open up the political process and let all of the people come in,” Rep. John Lewis, a Georgia Democrat and hero of the civil rights movement, told colleagues as he led opposition to the GOP measure.

    House votes in favor of illegal immigrant voting
    By Stephen Dinan
    Updated: 11:51 a.m. on Friday, March 8, 2019

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...igrant-voting/

    So how about separating federal election ballots from state and local elections ballots.

    In other words a separate federal ballot would be required listing only the names of candidates for federal offices —— presidents and members of Congress.

    Separating elections by a year would simplify the process. Federal elections would be held in even numbered years, while statewide elections could be held in odd numbered years. The tab for both elections would also be separated. The feds pay for theirs, while state and local governments would pay for theirs.

    I love my suggestion, but I doubt if ACLU parasites would take kindly to losing control of the courts?

    Some illegal immigrants gained a new right of appeal Thursday when a federal appeals court ruled that Congress cannot prevent them from challenging their deportations in federal courts.

    Court gives illegal immigrants new right of appeal before deportation
    By Stephen Dinan
    Thursday, March 7, 2019

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...-right-appeal/

    https://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...14#post2763814

    I can imagine Democrats going bananas when the vote-count in federal elections are properly monitored —— and legitimate. Had the FEC done their job in 1960 JFK would have lost to Richard Nixon, nor would the Chicago sewer rat have gotten away with stealing two elections.

    https://www.google.com/search?source...30.Lfsl-DZzTo8

    Parenthetically, Sixty-five or so years ago U.N.-loving traitors tried to sell the idea that everyone in the world should vote in our presidential elections. (I do not recall anyone saying that Americans should vote in foreign elections.) That was probably the first idiotic U.N. public relations campaign to erase national borders.

    Inevitably, everybody in the world could run for President of the United States regardless of the Eligibility Clause in the U.S. Constitution. In short: No need to abolish the Electoral College. No American would ever become president because a foreigner would always win the popular vote.

    Also, illegal campaign contributions from wealthy foreigners achieved the very thing the U.N. called for decades ago. Each wealthy donor actually gets a lot more than one vote in our elections when you count the influence they get for their money.

    It is no surprise that the United Nations crowd fight like hell to give foreigners huge numbers in order to dilute votes cast by American. The Administration asking the question has Democrats sweating bullets over this one:






    The Supreme Court has agreed to decide whether the Trump administration can add a citizenship question to the 2020 census. The decision grants the administration's request for an immediate review of a lower court's ruling that stopped plans for the question. A hearing is expected to be held in April.

    Supreme Court To Decide Whether 2020 Census Will Include Citizenship Question
    Hansi Lo Wang

    https://www.npr.org/2019/02/15/69265...nship-question

    NOTE:
    Chief Justice Roberts will probably side with the Democrats on the citizenship form. The lawyer pleading the case for the American people should at least ask the Nifty Nine to explain how the number of seats in the House of Representative will be allocated after every illegal alien gets a vote?

    Finally, decades ago a graduated vote like our graduated income tax was proposed. The poor got one vote each while wealthy individuals get seven votes each. Each level in-between got votes according to their wherewithal (2-3-4-5-6). (Serving and retired military personnel would get seven votes each since they fight for the country.) Naturally, the graduated vote proposal went nowhere fast. Rather than pit the poor against the rich —— which the income tax does —— lets pit Americans against parasites:

    Every individual whose major source of income is derived from tax dollars gets one vote each. That means government employees, teachers, and so on. It also means that every private sector parasite living on tax dollars for any reason gets one vote; most especially millionaire executives whose major source of income comes from tax dollars indirectly.

    Every working American whose major source of income is not derived from tax dollars would get between 2 and 6 votes each. If nothing else a graduated vote would make it impossible to steal an election.
    The measure would have had no practical effect even if it had passed. Illegal immigrants — and indeed noncitizens as a whole — are not legally able to participate in federal elections.

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    Quote Originally Posted by floridafan View Post
    Illegal immigrants — and indeed noncitizens as a whole — are not legally able to participate in federal elections.
    To floridafan: Keeping them out is the best way to stop them from voting.

    Deporting them as soon as they are caught is the only way to stop from voting:

    2. Repeal every law that blocks immediate deportation.

    3. Stop lawyers from getting tax dollars to pay for all of those appeals illegal alien file after they are caught.

    4. Make employers who hire illegals pay every cost associated with capture and deportation.

    https://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...14#post2763814
    The basic test of freedom is perhaps less in what we are free to do than in what we are free not to do. It is the freedom to refrain, withdraw and abstain which makes a totalitarian regime impossible. Eric Hoffer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flanders View Post
    To floridafan: Keeping them out is the best way to stop them from voting.

    Deporting them as soon as they are caught is the only way to stop from voting:

    2. Repeal every law that blocks immediate deportation.

    Its really

    3. Stop lawyers from getting tax dollars to pay for all of those appeals illegal alien file after they are caught.

    4. Make employers who hire illegals pay every cost associated with capture and deportation.

    https://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...14#post2763814
    Its really not a problem because they dont vote. I would be far more concerned about Republican election fraud such is what happened in NC, and surely many other places.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flanders View Post
    Democrats are working overtime trying to separate illegal aliens from federal government jurisdiction:
    Nutso dare not quote the Chicago sewer rat:

    Is Nancy delusional or does she truly believe what she said?

    XXXXX


    We aren't opposed to welcoming legal immigrants from Central America. What Nancy is trying to say is that we don't welcome illegal aliens because they're from the southern border, not Europe. That's not the case at all. Conservatives don't care if a person comes from Central America, Asia or Europe. We just want to make sure people are doing it the proper way, that they're being vetted, that they're paying into our tax system and that they're contributing to society. We aren't standing with open arms to welcome anyone and everyone who wants to come to America. We don't want to see the drug cartel, terrorists, murderers and rapists crossing our border. And it doesn't matter if they're crossing the border by land, sea or air. We. Do. Not. Want. Them. Here. Period.

    Um, What? Pelosi Tries To Argue Illegals Should Be Able to Vote...Using a Reagan Quote?
    Beth Baumann
    Posted: Mar 09, 2019 5:05 PM

    https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bethba...quote-n2542872
    The basic test of freedom is perhaps less in what we are free to do than in what we are free not to do. It is the freedom to refrain, withdraw and abstain which makes a totalitarian regime impossible. Eric Hoffer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flanders View Post
    Had the FEC done their job in 1960 JFK would have lost to Richard Nixon, nor would the Chicago sewer rat have gotten away with stealing two elections.

    https://www.google.com/search?source...30.Lfsl-DZzTo8
    So I looked up the first report you referenced, and this is what it said:


    Voting machine changes vote for Barack Obama to Mitt Romney

    An electronic voting machine was taken out of service on Tuesday after being captured on video changing a vote for President Barack Obama into one for Mitt Romney.

    The footage showed a voter in a polling booth repeatedly attempting to cast his ballot for Mr Obama, only to find the machine ticked Mr Romney's name.

    Baffled by the result, the unnamed voter alerted staff at the Pennsylvania voting station to the problem before recording what was happening. He later posted the video on YouTube.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...tt-Romney.html


    WTF?

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    Quote Originally Posted by floridafan View Post
    The measure would have had no practical effect even if it had passed. Illegal immigrants — and indeed noncitizens as a whole — are not legally able to participate in federal elections.
    sure, ignore this.....
    “We are prepared to open up the political process and let all of the people come in,” Rep. John Lewis, a Georgia Democrat

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    illegals already have the right to vote......in the country they should be returned to.......

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    twenty years ago I used to say it was too expensive to send all the illegals back home.......after watching the demmycunts block any effort to stop the problem for twenty years I no longer care how expensive it might be........track every one of them down and send them the fuck home.......

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    Voting has been traditionally under state and local control.

    We cannot let Big Government Progressive Republicans federalize voting control.

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    because the last thing the left wants is controlled voting.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmymccready View Post
    Voting has been traditionally under state and local control.
    To jimmymccready: Not exactly. Issues have been in media hands since the 1920s; i.e. federal government Socialists.

    Quote Originally Posted by jimmymccready View Post
    We cannot let Big Government Progressive Republicans federalize voting control.
    To jimmymccready: What are you talking about? Informed —— and uninformed —— voters retain control. Separating elections into odd and even numbered years makes it a lot more difficult for both Democrat and Republican campaign rhetoric to blend foreign policy with domestic issues.

    And you might consider the beneficial effect separate elections would have over television’s diminished control over foreign policy and state issues.
    The basic test of freedom is perhaps less in what we are free to do than in what we are free not to do. It is the freedom to refrain, withdraw and abstain which makes a totalitarian regime impossible. Eric Hoffer

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    sure, ignore this.....
    Sorry, there is a constitution which doesn't allow non citizens to vote.

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    Yes, states have generally controlled voting.

    Anyone who says differently has no idea about what they are talking.

    They could make an exception about CRA and voting oversight, but that is not general or normal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by floridafan View Post
    Sorry, there is a constitution which doesn't allow non citizens to vote.
    Lewis is prepared to open things up.......

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