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    Default DUAL LOYALTY, exactly who are the ISLAMICS referring to? - U.S Senators & Congressmen

    " Senators and U.S. Representatives that are Israel Dual Citizens"



    https://govbanknotes.wordpress.com/2...dual-citizens/
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    I wonder if a List like that was for Mexicans if it would be a Problem?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    I wonder if a List like that was for Mexicans if it would be a Problem?
    Why would it be a problem? Do you think there are a lot Israeli dual citizens in the Mexican gov't?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    I wonder if a List like that was for Mexicans if it would be a Problem?
    If the list included illegals (non-citizens) yes, it would be a big problem. If it included anyone from any country on earth who is here illegally, yes,it would be a big problem,

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    I want to thank Kudzu for providing the link to my op.



    https://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...37#post2920537
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdog View Post
    Why would it be a problem? Do you think there are a lot Israeli dual citizens in the Mexican gov't?
    I realize on your long list there that some are no longer serving in Congress. My question was, if there was a long list of Congresspeople that had a Dual-Citizenship with Mexico, would anyone feel that was a problem. I'm only asking this of American Citizens, and I'm not asking this of Mexicans or Israelis, only American Citizens.
    If there was a long list like this of American Congresspeople that had a Dual Citizenship with China, Saudi Arabia, Russia, I could see THAT as affecting Americans attitude towards this 'Dual Citizenship' issue. But, does Dual Citizenship with Israel, Mexico, or Japan have any impact on the way Congress would vote or pass Laws?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    I realize on your long list there that some are no longer serving in Congress. My question was, if there was a long list of Congresspeople that had a Dual-Citizenship with Mexico, would anyone feel that was a problem. I'm only asking this of American Citizens, and I'm not asking this of Mexicans or Israelis, only American Citizens.
    If there was a long list like this of American Congresspeople that had a Dual Citizenship with China, Saudi Arabia, Russia, I could see THAT as affecting Americans attitude towards this 'Dual Citizenship' issue. But, does Dual Citizenship with Israel, Mexico, or Japan have any impact on the way Congress would vote or pass Laws?
    Unlike the Democrats who see everything thru the lens of socialist identity politics, I would judge each as individuals. How about you?

    (and it's Kudzu's list)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdog View Post
    Unlike the Democrats who see everything thru the lens of socialist identity politics, I would judge each as individuals. How about you?
    I would wonder what the purpose of the Dual Citizenship was about. I would probably be curious if the person (persons) would initiate Legislation that favored that particular country. Like, say there were 20 people that all had Dual Citizenship with Mexico, and they all passed Legislation and voted for 'Open Borders'. See? Are they representing the wishes of the American People? Or, are they representing the wishes of the Mexican People?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    I would wonder what the purpose of the Dual Citizenship was about. I would probably be curious if the person (persons) would initiate Legislation that favored that particular country. Like, say there were 20 people that all had Dual Citizenship with Mexico, and they all passed Legislation and voted for 'Open Borders'. See? Are they representing the wishes of the American People? Or, are they representing the wishes of the Mexican People?
    Obviously, they represent what their voters wanted.

    In the case of elected Israeli Dems, ... they actually are extremely pro Islam, support the Palestinians, and were enraged by the recognition of Jerusalem as Israel's capital. So, apparently, it's a non-issue. It's a Dem thing, and we'll have to wait and see how it plays out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    I would wonder what the purpose of the Dual Citizenship was about. I would probably be curious if the person (persons) would initiate Legislation that favored that particular country. Like, say there were 20 people that all had Dual Citizenship with Mexico, and they all passed Legislation and voted for 'Open Borders'. See? Are they representing the wishes of the American People? Or, are they representing the wishes of the Mexican People?
    And non dual Mexican citizenship Dems are already voting for Open Borders. Apparently, ... it's another non-issue.
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    Catholics were accused of being loyal to Rome.

    JFK defeated this dual allegiance charge by emphasizing the separation of Church and State. Maybe modern Democrats Socialists should think about that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdog View Post
    " Senators and U.S. Representatives that are Israel Dual Citizens"

    https://govbanknotes.wordpress.com/2...dual-citizens/
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    Says 89 members of Congress "hold dual citizenship with Israel."
    Bloggers on Sunday, February 17th, 2019 in a Facebook post

    The post sourced a June 22, 2018, story from Prepare For Change, a conspiracy site that says a massive upheaval of society is imminent. The moderator of that website told us the story’s content was pulled from an article by the Governmental Services Corporation Watch and a post from Reddit’s conspiracy page. We noticed a discrepancy right away: The article’s headline reads "89" members of Congress hold dual citizenship. But the first sentence claims 89 percent of senators and congress hold dual citizenship. It’s unclear where the 89 or 89 percent figure comes in. But the list is problematic for several reasons.

    Before we get into specific flaws of the list, it's important to know that just because everyone on the list is Jewish does not mean they hold dual citizenship with Israel. The social media posts seem predicated on that. None of the current members listed were born in Israel, so they wouldn’t be naturalized Israeli citizens. Sen. Michael Bennet was born in India. Everyone else? The United States. (We explained in a 2015 fact-check why American-born Jews, including Sen. Bernie Sanders, aren’t automatically granted dual citizenship, despite pervasive online lists.)

    Some people may think American-born Jews have automatic dual citizenship due to a misinterpretation of the Israeli Law of Return. This is an immigration visa that "shall be granted to every Jew who has expressed his desire to settle in Israel," with some stipulations. This is a visa someone must request; it is not automatic. Also, none of these named politicians have settled in Israel.

    There are other reasons why the list is not credible.

    Only 62 officials from Congress and the executive branch — mostly Democratic or independent — were listed in this article, and 40 were called current members of the 112th U.S. Congress. Note that Congress is in its 116th session, with 34 Jewish representatives. One listed, Frank Lautenberg, has been dead almost six years. The list comes from a 2011 article published by the magazine Jewish Currents to highlight Jews in politics and point out Jewish liberalism. It did not say the politicians listed held dual citizenship. The order of the names in Jewish Currents matched Prepare For Change.

    Aryeh Tuchman, associate director of the Anti-Defamation League’s Center on Extremism, said the list perpetuates the anti-Semitic trope of Jewish disloyalty. Prepare For Change’s article links to a page by the American Freedom Party, a white supremacist group.

    "Jews have a long experience of being put on lists with very negative results," Tuchman said. "The implication that you are promoting is that these people are not loyal citizens of the country."
    Such lists aren’t confined to the questioning of politicians, either. Lists of Jews in positions of power in Hollywood, banking and academia surface in many cases, Tuchman said, to paint Jews as disloyal to the country and harboring an agenda. U.S. representatives must be U.S. citizens for seven years to qualify for office, and senators must be U.S. citizens for nine years, according to Article I of the Constitution.

    A disclaimer at the bottom of Prepare For Change’s article says, "Use logical thinking, your own intuition and your own connection with Source, Spirit and Natural Laws to help you determine what is true and what is not."

    We have a different take: This claim is Pants on Fire.


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    She never said the words "dual loyalty"

    She never said it in reference to Jews

    She was talking about herself

    It was clear what she meant, why she should have to pledge loyalty to a foreign nation?

    Literally this is just something you made up to smear her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by President of Venezuala View Post
    She never said the words "dual loyalty"

    She never said it in reference to Jews

    She was talking about herself

    It was clear what she meant, why she should have to pledge loyalty to a foreign nation?

    Literally this is just something you made up to smear her.
    I never said she did. Notice my title says "Islamics". Dual Allegiance accusations are an old trope that has been used against Jews for years.

    She said, “the political influence in this country that says it is okay to push for allegiance to a foreign country,”. What do YOU think she was referencing?
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