Reply With Quotesure daddy can comrade and his employee of the month won't even whimper!Originally Posted by Havana Moon
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Vladimir Putin's secret plan to put 100,000 troops in Ukraine within FOUR HOURS
Very scary, I have no reason to doubt it but others may think otherwise.
A FAMED woman tank commander fighting for pro-Vladimir Putin rebels has revealed Russia’s secret plan to place 100,000 ground troops inside Ukraine in just four hours after she defected to the country.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world...sion-troop-war
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sure daddy can comrade and his employee of the month won't even whimper!
cancel2 2022 (03-04-2019), dukkha (03-05-2019)
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Anybody sensible have anything to contribute?
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Have I called a cunt today, cunt?
Truth Detector (03-05-2019)
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not to this garbage. since when are you dealing in Russiaphobia?
If you want to claim Russia has war gamed moving into Ukraine -fine -I'm sure NATO does the same.
Ukraine is becoming more and more of s thorn in Russia's side - and that is BAD for all of eastern Europe.
Now the freaking country is actually at some risk of starting a regional war.
Their president is all over FOX news wanting more US entanglements
Ukraine government is bellicose regarding Russia and becoming a shill for NATO - as well as joining the EU.
Their government wants us in the Black Sea.
Fuck that NOISE!
More evidence that the Russiaphobia engendered by the FBI and Mueller is having real world consequences.
Trump is too Russiaphobic now -as he has to punish Putin because of US domestic politics.
Damn the Russiaphobes all to hell..
PS I started to read thru this -is it a movie? a love story?
But the pro-Moscow rebel government in the so-called Donetsk People’s Republic (DPR) claimed their heroine had been kidnapped by Ukrainian intelligence from Moldova after she went there to visit relatives.
"Ukrainian special services and propagandists are actively working with Svetlana, using savage methods of influencing her through children and relatives and people close to her,” said a statement.
She was being forced to mouth “ridiculous” statements.
Truth Detector (03-05-2019)
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I am not dealing with anything, I just posted the article. However I have absolutely no doubt that Putin would take over Ukraine if he thought the consequences woukd be relatively benign.
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The article is junk. Putin never wanted to take over Ukraine.
The war in Dombass is a function of Russian nationalists being threatened by Ukraine militias-
which we now arm with offensive weapons.
However NOW he might consider moving into more of Ukraine because of the extreme tilt towards NATO by the Poroshenko government. we are hell bent on prying Ukraine completely away from ANY Russian orbit!
We are playing Cold War 2 games.
To quote evince: "this is the bees let out out by the shit cork" of US meddling in the Euromaidan which caused the Ukraine annexation by Russia because of the threat of access to Sevastopol.
That is the ultimate legacy of John McCain ( presence in Independence Square) and his egging on of a revolution
wanted by Svoboda's ultra-nationalists
The situation now has a life of it's own, and zero sum madness rules the NATO mindset
Truth Detector (03-05-2019)
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I don't know if this is sensible, but I'm surprised Russia hasn't already reclaimed Ukraine.
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that would trigger a really bad war. Putin supports the separatists in Donbass:
A. because they are Russian/Russian speaking
B. to "de-federalize" Kyiv influence there
Ukraine is becoming a playground for Cold War 2 games
Jack (03-05-2019), Truth Detector (03-05-2019)
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We'll try this one for size then!!
https://www.spectator.co.uk/2018/12/...-with-ukraine/
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Have you seen that place on a Map? It's EAST of Poland and Romania. Historically 'Russian' property. (WHO would fight Russia over THAT?)
Guno צְבִי (03-05-2019)
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why do these right wing kooks hate the Crimea?
Trump could openly admit he hates the Constitution and they'd clamor for a Russian-style Communist State
anatta (03-05-2019), cancel2 2022 (03-05-2019)
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Your family tree must be a cactus because everybody on it is a prick.
Truth Detector (03-05-2019)
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very good link. we don't look at the Pososhenko failures and corruption.. Thanks VERY much! I bookmarked this
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https://www.spectator.co.uk/2018/12/...-with-ukraine/
Of the two, it is Poroshenko who has most to gain from the exhilarating distraction of war. He presides over a chaotic and corrupt bureaucracy, which though less spectacularly kleptocratic than that of his predecessor Viktor Yanukovych nonetheless ranks a miserable 130th place among the 180 countries in Transparency International’s Corruption Perceptions Index.
The Kiev press is full of stories of army commanders embezzling funds meant for soldiers facing off against Russian-backed separatists in Donetsk and Lugansk.
Disgusted citizens have pioneered a brutal species of flash-mob where groups of vigilantes waylay corrupt officials and physically dump them in rubbish bins.
Poroshenko’s government has also been powerless to control irregular, ultra-nationalist military units such as the Azov Battalion. Partisan commanders and soldiers lounge in Kiev bars dressed in their self-designed uniforms and carrying Kalashnikovs, their jeeps parked haphazardly across the pavement in open contempt of the authority of police.
In 2015 the firebrand former president of Georgia Mikheil Saakashvili was appointed governor of Odessa and attempted to clean up the fantastically corrupt bureaucrats who ran Ukraine’s biggest port.
His crusade crossed powerful vested interests who ousted him in just a year — and Poroshenko was too dependent on the local bigwigs’ power to object. Last year, the International Monetary Fund even suspended vital loans after Poroshenko failed to push through reforms — such as setting up anti-corruption courts — that the Fund had insisted upon.
In a word, the high hopes of the pro-EU, anti-corruption protesters who made the 2014 Maidan revolution have been thoroughly dashed, not only because of Russia’s subsequent invasion of Crimea and Donbass but by Poroshenko’s own inability to clean up the cloaca of Ukrainian politics.
Instead, he has sought to extract financial and military support from the West by pointing to Russia’s occupation of his country — most recently by appealing to ‘Ukraine’s allies to stand united’ against Russia
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