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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    Well, this thread started out stupid and rapidly degenerated. Hats off to Kudzu for keeping the birthertard occupied and out of the rest of the forum. lol
    I don't mean to be unkind, but this is pitiful. I can't believe He still doesn't understand JURISDICTION.. Anyone on US soil is under US jurisdiction because NO OTHER COUNTRY'S LAWS ARE CONTROLLING LEGAL AUTHORITY IN THE US.

    Anyone on US soil.. tourist, student, businessman.. legal or illegal is under US jurisdiction with the exception of foreign diplomats.

    After ten years you'd think they would read the US statutes.
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    PS.. There are only two kinds of US Citizenship.. Natural born and Naturalized.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    I don't mean to be unkind, but this is pitiful. I can't believe He still doesn't understand JURISDICTION.. Anyone on US soil is under US jurisdiction because NO OTHER COUNTRY'S LAWS ARE CONTROLLING LEGAL AUTHORITY IN THE US.

    Anyone on US soil.. tourist, student, businessman.. legal or illegal is under US jurisdiction with the exception of foreign diplomats.

    After ten years you'd think they would read the US statutes.
    You would, wouldn't you?

    Maybe the concept would make more sense if you pointed out that when you are in another country, you are subject to THEIR jurisdiction... not the U.S.'s? We've all seen news stories about Americans who violated a law in a foreign nation and were jailed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    You would, wouldn't you?

    Maybe the concept would make more sense if you pointed out that when you are in another country, you are subject to THEIR jurisdiction... not the U.S.'s? We've all seen news stories about Americans who violated a law in a foreign nation and were jailed.

    That's true.. Sadly many Americans think they are under US when they get in trouble in Spain or the UAE or elsewhere and they think the US Embassy will bail them out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flanders View Post
    Finally, Lady Ann’s piece is loaded with facts for anyone who is interested in learning why anchor babies are NOT American citizens:


    Ann Coulter: The True History of Millstone Babies
    by Ann Coulter
    31 Oct 2018

    https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/...lstone-babies/
    When in hell is he going to stop CONSIDERING and do it?

    President Trump says he’s revisiting the idea of eliminating the nation’s birthright citizenship policy that allows the illegal-alien families of “anchor babies” born in the U.S. to remain in the country.

    Trump told reporters on Wednesday his administration is considering an executive order to end the “ridiculous” policy.

    “We’re looking at that very seriously — birthright citizenship. Where you have a baby on our land, you walk over the border, have a baby, congratulations the baby is now a U.S. citizen,” Trump said.

    “We are looking at birthright citizenship very seriously. It’s, frankly, ridiculous.”

    President Trump vowed in October 2018 to end the policy, but it remains intact.

    An average of about 300,000 children of illegal aliens are born in the United States each year as American citizens, according to an analysis of Census Bureau data.

    Breitbart News noted the Supreme Court has never explicitly ruled that the children of illegal aliens must be granted birthright citizenship, and many legal scholars dispute the idea. The U.S. and Canada are the only two developed nations with birthright citizenship.

    ‘Zero connection to the United States’

    Trump made an issue of the policy as early as 2011 in his book “Time to Get Tough: Making America #1 Again,” which contains a five-point plan on immigration reform.

    Among the proposals is to clarify the meaning of the 14th Amendment, contending it is being misinterpreted to establish a legal basis for birthright citizenship.

    “Some four million anchor babies are now officially U.S. citizens,” Trump wrote. “This has to stop. The only other major country in the world that issues citizenship based on where one’s mother delivers her child is Canada. The rest of the world bases citizenship on who the kid’s parents are, which is of course the only sane standard.”

    He asked: “If a pregnant American mother is traveling to Egypt on business and goes into delivery, do we instantly declare her child an Egyptian? Of course not.”

    But in the United States, he wrote, “women who have zero connection to the United States cross the border, deliver a baby, and their kid magically becomes an American citizen eligible to receive all the rights and benefits of those who have lived, worked, and paid taxes in our country.”

    The 14th Amendment states: “All citizens born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and the state wherein they reside.”

    Trump argued that the “clear purpose of the Fourteenth Amendment, ratified in 1868, three years after the end of the Civil War, was to guarantee full citizenship rights to now emancipated former slaves.”

    “It was not intended to guarantee untrammeled immigration to the United States,” he wrote.

    Trump expressed support for previous discussion by Republican Sens. John Kyl of Arizona and Lindsey Graham of South Carolina about introducing a constitutional amendment to “clarify and restore the original intent of the Fourteenth Amendment.”


    Trump considers ending 'ridiculous' anchor-baby policy
    Posted By WND Staff On 08/22/2019 @ 3:32 pm

    https://www.wnd.com/2019/08/trump-co...r-baby-policy/
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