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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolverine View Post
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    Sorry libturds they are not socialist!
    I am still waiting for a plausible explanation for why teabaggers have spent political careers and message board careers calling western Europe "socialist", but teabaggers now very belatedly do not want the word "socialism" associated with Sweden, Denmark, France, Germany, Norway, Netherlands, Finland, Iceland, et al.

    Why the extremely sudden flip flop??

    European socialism taking root in US, Fox Business News’ Stuart Varney says
    https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics...us-varney-says
    Sorry, it is way too late for you to back track, retreat, and walk back what Republican politicians and rightwing message board posters have been claiming for years: That western Europe, Scandinavia, France, Denmark, Norway, Iceland, and President Obama are "socialist".

    If Sweden isn't socialist then neither is Barack Obama. But you teabaggers spent 8 years calling Obama a "socialist' -- so you have a lot of explaining to do now.

    The burden is on you to explain the sudden back flip, the mental gymnastics, the sudden retreat from characterizing western Europe and Barack Obama as "socialist"

    Leading Republicans Refer to Western Europe as "Socialists"

    ....(and let's not forget, rightwing message boarders have spent years calling western Europe "socialist")......

    Lately it seems that not a day goes by without a Republican presidential candidate portraying Europe as a socialist nightmare. Mitt Romney, Newt Gingrich and Rick Santorum paint a picture of the Old World as unfree, strangulated by bureaucratic and inefficient welfare systems, and unable to reform and modernize. To these Republicans, Europe seems to be the antipode to everything America is meant to be.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...=.310f3f267a8a

    Leading Republicans Call Western Europe "Socialist"


    Newt Gingrich has constantly accused the president of being a "European Socialist", often adding in a reference to an all-but-forgotten community activist from Chicago, who died in 1972, but whose Democratic-leaning writings are thought to have influenced the current president

    "I am for the Declaration of Independence; he is for the writing of Saul Alinsky. I am for the Constitution; he is for European socialism," Mr Gingrich told voters in Florida last week.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-16583813

    Bill O'Reilly noted rightwing blowhard: Western Europe is basically socialist

    "I received a letter from Rhonda Hallett who lives in Jacksonville, North Carolina asking me to define Bernie's doctrine of Democratic socialism. Ok. That's basically what some countries in western Europe have, a political system that limits personal income through taxation in return for cradle to grave payouts from the governments. That's the trade."

    http://nation.foxnews.com/2016/02/14...atic-socialism

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolverine View Post
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    Sorry libturds they are not socialist!

    your drugs are confusing you. Sweden being socialist is your schtick skippy

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    There is only one definition for socialism. You cannot just decide to throw into something to make it sound like it is not. Progressives, liberals and Democrat who do not really know what it is need to get an education on it.


    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/socialism

    socialism noun
    so·​cial·​ism | \ ˈsō-shə-ˌli-zəm
    \
    Definition of socialism

    1 : any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods
    2a : a system of society or group living in which there is no private property
    b : a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state
    3 : a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    Sorry, it is way too late for you to back track, retreat, and walk back what Republican politicians and rightwing message board posters have been claiming for years: That western Europe, Scandinavia, France, Denmark, Norway, Iceland, and President Obama are "socialist".

    If Sweden isn't socialist then neither is Barack Obama. But you teabaggers spent 8 years calling Obama a "socialist' -- so you have a lot of explaining to do now.

    The burden is on you to explain the sudden back flip, the mental gymnastics, the sudden retreat from characterizing western Europe and Barack Obama as "socialist"
    Wow, you are seriously retarded, leftists are the ones who have touted those wonderful socialist bastions, as examples for us to follow, they are not socialist! Obama did not want what they have they just used those as examples for cover of turning us into Venezuela.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    Nope.. They have used them as an example of excellent healthcare.. you must assume that means "socialism".
    I have answered this a bit late. Just look through the posts from fellow Democrats and liberals on this thread. Socialism. They are not using it for an example of "free healthcare". Dumb fucks do not know the difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolverine View Post
    Wow, you are seriously retarded, leftists are the ones who have touted those wonderful socialist bastions, as examples for us to follow, they are not socialist! Obama did not want what they have they just used those as examples for cover of turning us into Venezuela.

    you new here arent you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolverine View Post
    Wow, you are seriously retarded, leftists are the ones who have touted those wonderful socialist bastions, as examples for us to follow, they are not socialist! Obama did not want what they have they just used those as examples for cover of turning us into Venezuela.
    In other words, you simply cannot explain why teabaggers spent careers calling western Europe "socialist", but all of a sudden, very belatedly, and in an extraordinary effort at flip flopping and back tracking, you do not want the word "socialism" associated with western Europe.

    European socialism taking root in US, Fox News's Stuart Varney says
    https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics...us-varney-says

    You also have not explained how, if Sweden is not socialist, then why teabaggers spent 8 years calling Obama socialist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolverine View Post
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    Sorry libturds they are not socialist!
    Dear fucking idiot,


    the only people that claimed they were socialist nations were you fucking idiots on the right


    thanks for proving a socialistic program doesn't make a nation less capitalist


    but holey moley are you right wing bots badly programmed


    fuck you very much

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    All non-autocratic government is socialism--things we choose to do collectively.

    No socialism = either anarchy or autocracy.

    Right wings nut jobs shouldn't be allowed to define the word as they choose.
    Their grasp of language and meaning is deficient from every perspective.
    Deficiency, both intellectual and moral, is what defines a Trumpanzee or any reactionary "conservative."

    America is in deep trouble, and much of it is attributable to an insufficient commitment to public education.
    There's nothing the corporate oligarchs like more than an ignorant electorate, and their being blessed with one here in America is why we're on the precipice of swirling down history's toilet as a relevant nation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by katzgar View Post
    you new here arent you
    Grammatically challenged illiterate leftist eruption in progress.
    "When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."


    A lie doesn't become the truth, wrong doesn't become right, and evil doesn't become good just because it is accepted by a majority.
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    Unless you just can't stand the idea of "ni**ers" teaching white kids.


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    Address the topic, not other posters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    LOLOL.. I have never even known anyone who thought the Scandinavian countries were socialists. Haven't you been to any of those countries? I think you are projecting your ignorance on to others. Trump does that ALL the time.

    He'll say something that is common knowledge and then say, "most people don't know that".
    You're either a complete idiot, or a liar. Frankly, it could go either way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NiftyNiblick View Post
    All non-autocratic government is socialism--things we choose to do collectively.

    No socialism = either anarchy or autocracy.

    Right wings nut jobs shouldn't be allowed to define the word as they choose.
    Their grasp of language and meaning is deficient from every perspective.
    Deficiency, both intellectual and moral, is what defines a Trumpanzee or any reactionary "conservative."

    America is in deep trouble, and much of it is attributable to an insufficient commitment to public education.
    There's nothing the corporate oligarchs like more than an ignorant electorate, and their being blessed with one here in America is why we're on the precipice of swirling down history's toilet as a relevant nation.
    Isn't it cute how you Fascistic liberal morons desperately try to run from the term Socialism. I might even agree, you morons are more Marxist than Socialists.
    "When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomad View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    In other words, you simply cannot explain why teabaggers spent careers calling western Europe "socialist", but all of a sudden, very belatedly, and in an extraordinary effort at flip flopping and back tracking, you do not want the word "socialism" associated with western Europe.




    You also have not explained how, if Sweden is not socialist, then why teabaggers spent 8 years calling Obama socialist.
    Again your idiocy precedes you, you and your socialist brethren used those as examples of socialism I didn't, Obama wanted the Venezuelan type. Swedish people pay exorbitant taxes especially the rich who do the same thing the rich here do spanky! The take it to off shore accounts to avoid all the taxation. Tell me oh socialist lover, how much is to much for any one person to pay, and are you sending extra to the Government to set a good example. No one person should pay a higher percentage than the next, because equal is equal right! In fact if you make more than I do send me the difference>

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    Isn't it cute how you Fascistic liberal morons desperately try to run from the term Socialism. I might even agree, you morons are more Marxist than Socialists.
    This is another incredibly stupid thread by bullshit blob, who in fairness, is intellectually capable only of stupid posts.
    Even as I embrace the term "socialism," he comments on our running away from it.

    "Fascistic liberals" on its face reveals the incapacity of blob to use intelligible language. The poor troglodyte is illiterate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NiftyNiblick View Post
    All non-autocratic government is socialism--things we choose to do collectively.

    No socialism = either anarchy or autocracy.

    Right wings nut jobs shouldn't be allowed to define the word as they choose.
    Their grasp of language and meaning is deficient from every perspective.
    Deficiency, both intellectual and moral, is what defines a Trumpanzee or any reactionary "conservative."

    America is in deep trouble, and much of it is attributable to an insufficient commitment to public education.
    There's nothing the corporate oligarchs like more than an ignorant electorate, and their being blessed with one here in America is why we're on the precipice of swirling down history's toilet as a relevant nation.
    The commitment is fine, it's the indoctrination into liberalism that kills education, that and common core, and the government not turning it over to private institutions, where people can choose where their children go!

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