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    You better trust God because you cannot trust Trump:

    President Trump is doing the right thing in pursuing peace with North Korea.

    Love him or hate him, Trump is right about North Korea
    Joel Mathis
    February 25, 2019

    https://theweek.com/articles/825598/...ut-north-korea

    Trump better get his head screwed on right if he wants to stop Socialism/Communism in this country at the same time he condones it in North Korea.

    Go back to the beginning.

    Woodrow Wilson actually started the Korean War in this speech 102 years ago:


    http://www.firstworldwar.com/source/...outvictory.htm

    The Korean War is a United Nations Police Action which is a synonym for undeclared war. U.N. peacekeeping was spawned by the Korean War.

    The Sitdown in Singapore justified Woodrow Wilson’s first Peace With Victory failure.

    Media mouths were peeing themselves with excitement over the possibility of ending a United Nations war for a Communist country’s benefit —— a war where 33,686 Americans died in vain if when a peace treaty declares North Korea the winner. So I have one question for Trump after he gets off Air Force One waving a piece paper. Where is our Winston Churchill?



    Neville Chamberlain Waving Munich Agreement

    NOTE:
    This sure as hell sounded a lot like “Peace in our time.”

    . . . everyone can “sleep well tonight” now that nuclear warfare seems to have been averted.

    'Sleep Well Tonight!': Trump Says N. Korea 'No Longer a Nuclear Threat' After Returning From Summit
    AARON CREDEUR
    JUN 13, 2018 | 9:17 AM

    https://ijr.com/2018/06/1102743-trump-tweets-nk-summit/

    The shooting in Korea began in 1950. That means Trump thinks he can permanently end a shooting war that began 69 years ago. Lots of luck on that one.

    One of the ways Trump might improve those ties is by signing a declaration to end the Korean War when he meets with Kim next week. That war ended in 1953 with an armistice — not a formal peace treaty — which means the war is technically still going on. Formally ending the conflict would be a powerful symbol that hostilities on the Korean Peninsula may, possibly, be coming to a close.

    At a minimum, Trump could sign a peace treaty with North Korea, which Pyongyang also wants.

    Trump just made 3 shocking statements about North Korea
    Yes, even worse than normal.
    By Alex Ward@AlexWardVoxalex.ward@vox.com Jun 7, 2018, 5:30pm EDT

    https://www.vox.com/2018/6/7/1743907...-normalization

    I do not see how President Trump can sign a peace treaty since Congress never declared war against North Korea.

    Trump has his nose so far up the U.N.’s ass he will sign for the United Nations which is exactly what Peace Without Victory means.

    U.S. Ambassador to the U.N. could sign the peace treaty.

    If truth be told U.N. Secretary General António Guterres would sign the peace treaty.

    South Korea and North Korea could sign a peace treaty without either side claiming victory. China sure as hell will not allow Kim Jong-un sign anything that hands a victory to South Korea.

    Withdrawing from the United Nations is the only peace treaty that means anything.

    Remember what Trump said when he flew to Singapore:

    'I'm going on a mission of peace': Optimistic Trump jets out of the G7 summit early for historic summit with Kim Jong-un, and says the Korean leader has 'one shot' to show he's serious

    Trump should have said “I’m going on a mission of Peace Without Victory in our time.”

    The asshole handing North Korea (China) Peace Without Victory means that 33,686 Americans died in vain fighting Communism. In truth, Peace Without Victory means a major victory for U.N.-loving traitors.

    Threatening North Korea with the U.S. military is the U.N.’s hole card:


    Donald Trump threatens Kim Jong-un with military action after cancelling meeting
    By Rozina Sabur, Washington Ben Riley-Smith, US Editor Nicola Smith, Taipei
    24 May 2018 • 2:50pm

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...h-koreas-open/

    Irreversible denuclearization is a pipe dream. Withdrawing from the United Nations is the only thing that has a slight chance of denuclearization. The U.S. withdrawing from the U.N. is the only thing China fears more denuclearization.

    QUESTION: Why is denuclearizing North Korea a deal-killer to China? ANSWER: China does not want North Korea to denuclearize any more than China wants U.S. troops gone.

    Regardless of Kim Jong-un’s druthers he got the memo from Xi Jinping. China never wanted U.S. troops out of South Korea because their presence guarantee a continuation of Peace Without Victory which, in turn, gave China the time to grow in military strength.

    If Trump wants to defend this country from the biggest military threat in the world he better deal with Xi Jinping who thinks he is Leroy Brown and a whole lot meaner than a junkyard dog.





    That is why you will never see Leroy’s name on this:


    Joint Statement of President Donald J. Trump of the United States of America and Chairman Kim Jong Un of the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea at the Singapore Summit

    President Donald J. Trump of the United States of America and Chairman Kim Jong Un of the State Affairs Commission of the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea (DPRK) held a first, historic summit in Singapore on June 12, 2018.

    President Trump and Chairman Kim Jong Un conducted a comprehensive, in-depth, and sincere exchange of opinions on the issues related to the establishment of new U.S.-DPRK relations and the building of a lasting and robust peace regime on the Korean Peninsula. President Trump committed to provide security guarantees to the DPRK, and Chairman Kim Jong Un reaffirmed his firm and unwavering commitment to complete denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula.

    Convinced that the establishment of new U.S.-DPRK relations will contribute to the peace and prosperity of the Korean Peninsula and of the world, and recognizing that mutual confidence building can promote the denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula, President Trump and Chairman Kim Jong Un state the following:

    1. The United States and the DPRK commit to establish new U.S.-DPRK relations in accordance with the desire of the peoples of the two countries for peace and prosperity.

    2. The United States and the DPRK will join their efforts to build a lasting and stable peace regime on the Korean Peninsula.

    3. Reaffirming the April 27, 2018 Panmunjom Declaration, the DPRK commits to work toward complete denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula.

    4. The United States and the DPRK commit to recovering POW/MIA remains, including the immediate repatriation of those already identified.

    Having acknowledged that the U.S.-DPRK summit—the first in history—was an epochal event of great significance in overcoming decades of tensions and hostilities between the two countries and for the opening up of a new future, President Trump and Chairman Kim Jong Un commit to implement the stipulations in this joint statement fully and expeditiously. The United States and the DPRK commit to hold follow-on negotiations, led by the U.S. Secretary of State, Mike Pompeo, and a relevant high-level DPRK official, at the earliest possible date, to implement the outcomes of the U.S.-DPRK summit.

    President Donald J. Trump of the United States of America and Chairman Kim Jong Un of the State Affairs Commission of the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea have committed to cooperate for the development of new U.S.-DPRK relations and for the promotion of peace, prosperity, and security of the Korean Peninsula and of the world.

    [signature]

    DONALD J. TRUMP
    President of the United States of America

    [signature]

    KIM JONG UN
    Chairman of the State Affairs Commission of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea

    June 12, 2018
    Sentosa Island
    Singapore

    If and when they ever get around to the details in a treaty our super-negotiator better make sure that North Korea does not get nuclear missiles from China, Iran, et al. In fact, China will now increase its own nuclear capabilities in order to supply North Korea.

    Finally, the longer North Korea has nukes the longer China has to prepare their attack on the U.S.

    p.s. Do not confuse ending nuclear proliferation with how to treat a defeated enemy:

    Every treaty the U.S. signs brings the enemy closer to their certain victory. The trick is to grind enemies into dust who are sure they cannot lose. Basically, this has to become the end game for wars against aggressive governments in the future.

    Destroy everything using all of the technology available short of nuclear and biological weapons. Destroy every commercial building. Destroy every structure higher than 25 feet. Destroy every dam, every bridge, every tunnel, every power plant, every airport, every railroad. When that is done do not sign a peace treaty with people who advocated war in the first place. Never signing a peace treaty means that every time a defeated enemy rebuilds something knock it down again until they curse the reason they started their war.

    Systematically keep the defeated people living in the dark ages for a century.

    Every neutral country that accepts refugees from a defeated country will be committing an act of war.

    Anyone found guilty providing aid and comfort to the enemy during, or after the war ends, would be sentenced to living the remainder of their life in the defeated country.

    https://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...82#post2864182

    p..p.s. I hope this is the last peace treaty this country ever signs:




    General of the Army Douglas MacArthur signing the Instrument of Surrender on behalf of the Allied Powers
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    The Chicago sewer rat said that his foreign policy strategy was going to work. He forgot to say that it will work for Islamic terrorists. Throwing occupation on the table was part of his strategy. He practically said do not go to war against Islam:

    “It is not just my view but the view of my closest military and civilian advisers that that would be a mistake,” Obama said, adding that’s “because we would see a repetition of what we’ve seen before, which is if you do not have local populations that are committed to inclusive governance and who are pushing back against ideological extremes, that they resurface, unless we’re prepared to have a permanent occupation of these countries.”


    ‘We’re going to see it through’: Pres. Obama defends U.S. strategy against ISIS after Paris attacks
    Posted 10:58 am, November 16, 2015, by CNN Wire

    http://cbs4indy.com/2015/11/16/were-...paris-attacks/

    The fact is that militarily occupying a defeated country is no longer the only choice. The lesson learned in the Algerian War (1954 - 1962), and the more recent war in Iraq, taught that future wars must be fought without occupation as the end game when it is certain a defeated enemy will fallback on terrorism to drive out the occupiers.

    NOTE: France’s problems in Algeria were all about wine if I remember correctly. Wealthy Frenchmen had millions of acres of vineyards in Algeria. The table wine made from Algerian grapes was the wine the French people drank. After France lost Algeria most of those vineyards went to ruin because Muslims are supposedly teetotalers. The wines produced from grapes grown in France were exported to acquire foreign currency. That is how I remember the French/Algerian conflict. An old seaman I knew called it the Muscatel War. More importantly, the Algerian War was also a revolution; nevertheless, the methods Muslims employed to defeat France became the template for Islam’s strategy. North Korea (China) negotiating from Islam’s template gives them a false sense of final victory.

    What we're covering here


    President Trump meets with Kim Jong Un
    By Ben Westcott, James Griffiths, Meg Wagner and Veronica Rocha, CNN
    Updated 5 min ago7:51 a.m. ET, February 27, 2019

    https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-ne...019/index.html

    Bottom line: Military occupations are obsolete. It matters not if the little fat guy with the bad haircut knows it. It is crucial that Trump covers it in his negotiations.

    Quote Originally Posted by Flanders View Post
    The trick is to grind enemies into dust who are sure they cannot lose. Basically, this has to become the end game for wars against aggressive governments in the future.
    Incidentally, I would go even further with China. Divide China into a dozen or so sovereign nations after the inevitable war China is preparing for ends. Human nature will do the rest.

    QUESTION: Are those separate checks on the plates? It looks like Trump is calling out a deadbeat!





    Trump and Kim are joined by a small group including US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo at Wednesday night's dinner. Saul Loeb/AFP/Getty Images
    The basic test of freedom is perhaps less in what we are free to do than in what we are free not to do. It is the freedom to refrain, withdraw and abstain which makes a totalitarian regime impossible. Eric Hoffer

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    Nancy Pelosi has been one jump ahead of a fit for years. It caught up with her yesterday.

    President Trump walked out of his second summit with North Korean tyrant Kim Jong-un on Thursday.

    The US presented evidence of additional nuclear sites which stunned the North Korean delegation.
    President Trump walked away early after a deal could not be reached.

    Pelosi criticized the President on Thursday for his efforts to negotiate the denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula — something that no US president before him was able to accomplish.

    Nancy Pelosi, 78, froze for several seconds because she forgot where President Trump was returning from.

    “The President is returning from [freezes for several seconds] Vietnam with his meeting with Kim Jong Un. I guess it took two meetings for him to realize that Kim Jong Un is not on the level — he was the big winner, Kim Jong Un in getting to sit face-to-face with the most powerful person in the world — the President of the United States,” Pelosi said, adding, “And really it’s good that the President did not give him anything…”

    Pelosi couldn’t even say the word “denuclearization,” instead she said, “denuclearation.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Flanders View Post
    QUESTION: Why is denuclearizing North Korea a deal-killer to China? ANSWER: China does not want North Korea to denuclearize any more than China wants U.S. troops gone.
    Nutso’s brain misfired when she sided with President Trump at the same time trying not to say she was rooting for China:

    VIDEO

    CSPAN

    @SpeakerPelosi: "It took two meetings for the him to realize that Kim Jong Un is not on the level…It's good that the president did not give him anything…I'm glad that the president walked away…" #NorthKorea

    11:23 AM - Feb 28, 2019

    Speaker Pelosi Freezes, Slurs Her Words as She Takes a Shot at Trump After Meeting With Kim Jong Un Cut Short (VIDEO)
    by Cristina Laila
    February 28, 2019 242

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201...t-short-video/
    The basic test of freedom is perhaps less in what we are free to do than in what we are free not to do. It is the freedom to refrain, withdraw and abstain which makes a totalitarian regime impossible. Eric Hoffer

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    N. Korea Considering Whether To Resume Nuclear, Missile Tests Amid Impasse With U.S.

    March 15, 20192:41 PM ET


    https://www.npr.org/2019/03/15/70371...mpasse-with-u-


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    Quote Originally Posted by Flanders View Post
    . . . Xi Jinping who thinks he is Leroy Brown and a whole lot meaner than a junkyard dog.



    The folks demonstrating in Hong Kong better find a way to lock their junkyard dog in a cage if they want to hang onto a modicum of freedom:




    The mass turnout, with crowds filling public parks and thronging roads up to six lanes wide for more than a mile and a half, heaps pressure on the city’s leaders and their political masters in Beijing to shelve the law. Unlike 2003, however, China’s ruling Communist Party under President Xi Jinping has in recent years taken a much stronger line against dissent in the former British colony.


    Massive Crowds Take to Streets in ‘Last Fight’ for Hong Kong
    By Natasha Khan
    Updated June 9, 2019 7:54 a.m. ET

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/massive...ng-11560075915

    p.s. This is almost as bad Planned Parenthood’s baby parts business:

    A Hong Kong-flagged cargo ship departed South Carolina in July carrying 6,000 pounds of human remains valued at $67,204. The container’s temperature was set to 5 degrees Fahrenheit to prevent the parts from spoiling. Relatives of the dead, meanwhile, did not realize their loved ones’ remains were being dismembered and sent to Europe and elsewhere, the report notes.

    Body brokers like Oregon-based MedCure rely on lax regulations to export heads, shoulders, knees and toes to Mexico, China, Venezuela and Saudi Arabia, among several other countries. Plastic surgeons in Germany use heads to practice new techniques, while thousands of parts are shipped overseas annually.

    Chinese Tanker Had A Container Full Of Dead Americans
    Posted by: Rich Mitchell in In The News February 8, 2018

    https://www.conservativedailynews.co...ead-americans/

    Planned Parenthood’s butchery, and Hong Kong’s cargo ship, barely made a ripple on the scandal meter last year. Socialism’s Culture of Death implemented by the Democrat Party is the reason for society’s indifference to turning a buck from everything. So I doubt if bad, bad Leroy Brown will extradite the people involved in selling body parts.
    The basic test of freedom is perhaps less in what we are free to do than in what we are free not to do. It is the freedom to refrain, withdraw and abstain which makes a totalitarian regime impossible. Eric Hoffer

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