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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    Where's your evidence that this is the woman in question ? Would you present a ' tweet ' in court ?
    " First they came for the journalists...
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    Quote Originally Posted by moon View Post
    Where's your evidence that this is the woman in question ? Would you present a ' tweet ' in court ?
    Just refer to post #1

    "Once she joined ISIS, she sent messages of hate herself. She spread ISIS propaganda online, calling for attacks on Americans.
    In one tweet regarding Memorial Day weekend, she wrote: "Americans wake up. ... Go on drive-bys and spill all of their blood. ... Veterans, patriots."
    When ISIS announced the so-called caliphate, Muthana said, the community she'd joined "interpreted ourselves that it was obligatory upon us to go."
    (https://www.yahoo.com/gma/former-isi...opstories.html)

    Weren't those her messages?
    Common sense is not a gift, it's a punishment because you have to deal with everyone who doesn't have it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moon View Post
    Sure- but Pompeo is a compromised Trump stooge. It's for the courts to determine- you know- due process.
    Governments cannot be trusted with the law- any governments.
    What the tories are doing over here is to deny citizenship to a girl who went over there and married. The internationally agreed rule is that you can't deny someone citizenship unless the person has dual citizenship and can go elsewhere. About this the tories simply lie. They'll be beaten in the courts eventually, if people can afford it, but meanwhile they can beat their hollow chests and squeak! It is okay for countries to punish those who in any way abetted ISIS crimes if they can get a court verdict. What they're all trying to do at the moment, as in so many other things, is just strike attitudes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moon View Post
    Sure- but Pompeo is a compromised Trump stooge. It's for the courts to determine- you know- due process.
    Governments cannot be trusted with the law- any governments.
    Not surprising that your argument relies on character assassination. But the law is clear.

    The 14th Amendment defines citizenship this way: "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside." But even this does not get specific enough. As usual, the Constitution provides the framework for the law, but it is the law that fills in the gaps. The Constitution authorizes the Congress to do create clarifying legislation in Section 5 of the 14th Amendment; the Constitution, in Article 1, Section 8, Clause 4, also allows the Congress to create law regarding naturalization, which includes citizenship.

    Currently, Title 8 of the U.S. Code fills in the gaps left by the Constitution. Section 1401 defines the following as people who are "citizens of the United States at birth:"

    Anyone born inside the United States *
    Any Indian or Eskimo born in the United States, provided being a citizen of the U.S. does not impair the person's status as a citizen of the tribe
    Any one born outside the United States, both of whose parents are citizens of the U.S., as long as one parent has lived in the U.S.
    Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year and the other parent is a U.S. national
    Any one born in a U.S. possession, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year
    Any one found in the U.S. under the age of five, whose parentage cannot be determined, as long as proof of non-citizenship is not provided by age 21
    Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time)
    A final, historical condition: a person born before 5/24/1934 of an alien father and a U.S. citizen mother who has lived in the U.S.
    * There is an exception in the law — the person must be "subject to the jurisdiction" of the United States. This would exempt the child of a diplomat, for example, from this provision.
    https://www.usconstitution.net/consttop_citi.html

    Diplomats and their children are not "subject to the jurisdiction" of the United States. Therefore they are not US citizens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Soul View Post
    False premise. And shows an incredible ignorance of Christianity.
    Uh yeah. Can you say 'Inquisition'?
    Europe's history is filled with religious dumbasses killing other people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RB 60 View Post
    Just refer to post #1

    "Once she joined ISIS, she sent messages of hate herself. She spread ISIS propaganda online, calling for attacks on Americans.
    In one tweet regarding Memorial Day weekend, she wrote: "Americans wake up. ... Go on drive-bys and spill all of their blood. ... Veterans, patriots."
    When ISIS announced the so-called caliphate, Muthana said, the community she'd joined "interpreted ourselves that it was obligatory upon us to go."
    (https://www.yahoo.com/gma/former-isi...opstories.html)

    Weren't those her messages?
    Are you SURE they were HER messages ? Are you SURE that's her photograph ? You see, that's the trouble with lynch-mob organizers like you. You're never mistaken. Much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Soul View Post
    Not surprising that your argument relies on character assassination. But the law is clear.



    https://www.usconstitution.net/consttop_citi.html

    Diplomats and their children are not "subject to the jurisdiction" of the United States. Therefore they are not US citizens.
    I haven't made any argument. I'm saying that it's a matter for the courts.

    Would I want her as a neighbor ? No sir- but I don't speak for everybody else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by moon View Post
    I haven't made any argument. I'm saying that it's a matter for the courts.

    Would I want her as a neighbor ? No sir- but I don't speak for everybody else.

    Sure you have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CFM View Post
    Sure you have.
    Sure I haven't.
    " First they came for the journalists...
    We don't know what happened after that . "

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    Quote Originally Posted by moon View Post
    Sure I haven't.


    That's the difference between us. I have no problem taking a side and admitting it. You take a side but refuse to admit it. The bitch shouldn't get to come back. See how easy that is to pick the correct side?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CFM View Post
    That's the difference between us. I have no problem taking a side and admitting it. You take a side but refuse to admit it. The bitch shouldn't get to come back. See how easy that is to pick the correct side?
    You ain't the law. You get to have an opinion - and the freedom to vocalize it- thanks to those who live by the law.
    " First they came for the journalists...
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    Quote Originally Posted by CFM View Post
    That's the difference between us. I have no problem taking a side and admitting it. You take a side but refuse to admit it. The bitch shouldn't get to come back. See how easy that is to pick the correct side?
    I believe it was one of these Muslim women, Reps. Rashida Tlaib (D-MI) or Ilhan Omar (D-MN) who said that returning ISIS members should be treated gently.

    Both are Democrats.

    Crucifixion of children and burning people alive in a cage does not merit "gentle treatment."

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    Quote Originally Posted by RB 60 View Post
    Hoda Muthana, 24, left the U.S. to join the Islamic State (ISIS) in Syria in 2014. Now she wants to return.
    President Trump says she cannot return to the US, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo says she's not an American citizen.
    She claims she'll have "no problem" returning to the US.
    (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/i...roblem-n974391)

    Now, the bitch's father is suing the Trump administration.
    (https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/21/polit...hip/index.html)

    "Once she joined ISIS, she sent messages of hate herself. She spread ISIS propaganda online, calling for attacks on Americans.
    In one tweet regarding Memorial Day weekend, she wrote: "Americans wake up. ... Go on drive-bys and spill all of their blood. ... Veterans, patriots."
    When ISIS announced the so-called caliphate, Muthana said, the community she'd joined "interpreted ourselves that it was obligatory upon us to go."
    (https://www.yahoo.com/gma/former-isi...opstories.html)

    If this bitch is allowed to return to the US, she should be tried for treason and hung. She made the decision to leave the US
    and become an ISIS supporter and called for violence against Americans. Save time and money and don't allow the bitch back.
    Maybe if you volunteered to take her in as a sponsor? Prolly trained to be submissive. She's pretty hot looking even in that sack. If you have guns bet she'll polish em every night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moon View Post
    You ain't the law. You get to have an opinion - and the freedom to vocalize it- thanks to those who live by the law.
    When my opinion is based on the law, there isn't a difference.

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