Earl (02-22-2019)
Earl (02-22-2019)
WAPO:
"One dead, multiple injured after Venezuelan national guard opens fire on opposition supporters."
This is the ugly, brutal face of Socialism. Venezuela, a Socialist nation, is preventing food and medicine for starving and sick people from entering their country.
That was my question. Why not stop avoiding it?
You said the illegal aliens in the Atlanta area are making $20 an hours for laborer work.
I shown that the average laborer wage in the Atlanta area is $13.12.
My question is: Are you telling me that the illegals are making much more than the average?
https://www.payscale.com/research/US...926/Atlanta-GA
Consider this: You may be all wet about how much the illegals are making in the Atlanta area. It may be that the illegals are at the low end of the pay scale...BELOW the average.
I mean...it is just possible.
Of course, it is possible that the people in the Atlanta area want to pay illegals more than the average wage.
IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE SAYING?
Frank, if you will wait patiently, I will answer your post. There are quite a few posters that are posting to me. I am not avoiding your question.
Almost three (3j years ago, we had hardwood floors installed throughout our home. There were three Latinos and one jefe from Bosnia doing the work. He told me that none of the workers had green cards and that they were paid 20 dollars per hour and he was paid 25 dollars per hour. Since there is a lot of black market labor, the true average wage is hazy.
I didn’t know about the green cards until the work was almost done so don’t jump me about hiring illegals.
No surprise there. In 2008 and 2012, you voted based solely on Obama being black and in 2016, solely on Hillary being female.
At least you admit your choices for a candidate have nothing to do with being able to do the job but identify politics. Doing what you said only shows you'd be voting for 51 pussies.
Hello Micawber,
I think we are actually in agreement. What you say above is true and I agree with it.
Recalling our conversation, you said:
And I said:
What I meant was that when taxes are raised on the rich to pay for government programs both rich Republicans and rich Democrats will have to pay more.
And that's the only way America can be great, the only way those programs can get paid for. People of modest means cannot pay enough to fund all those programs. That's the difference between a great country and a not-so-great country. A great country has lots of rich people who can afford to pay enough taxes to fund all those things that make America great.
America won't be great if we just give the rich everything Republicans want (low or no taxes, very little regulation.) If we did that we would have to gut the safety net. It is our safety net which makes America great.
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I wouldn't be to sure about that. Yes the Dem field looks pretty weak at the moment but it's still way to early and the history of unpopular Presidents like Trump getting re-elected isn't good. Only one President, "W", has ever done it and the Nation being at war helped his cause immeasurably.
Oh and before some of you illiterate fools go off on calling Trump an "unpopular" President, it's the term that historians used for a President who loses the popular vote but wins the electoral college.
So you may want to keep in mind that someone who cannot gather enough votes to win the popular vote doesn't exactly have the odds in their favor when it comes to being re-elected.
So Trump has his work cut out for him. Now of course that is made easier if a truly weak candidate (like Sen Kerry in 04) is nominated. Bernie Sanders, for example.
Right now my bet is that the Dem nominee will be either Joe Biden or Sherrod Brown. If Biden throws his hat in the ring then I think the Dems would rally around him. Biden is obviously a very experienced political operator without the knee jerk hostility that Hillary elicited from the voting public.
If Biden is the nominee then i'd give Biden 2:1 odds in favor of winning. If it's Brown I'd call the odds pretty even.
Last edited by Mott the Hoople; 02-22-2019 at 12:37 PM.
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Earl (02-22-2019)
Well Earl of Derp...it's only happened five times that a presidential candidate has lost the popular vote but won the electoral college. So if you don't think the popular vote matters, than you're dumber than a bagful of hammers. Only one of the previous four unpopular presidents has won re-election. Those aren't exactly promising odds. The odds of Trump winning re-election, losing the popular vote but winning the electoral college are even greater.
And to completely blow your mind...the odds of winning the electoral, college if you win the popular vote are, historically, 9:1. Or to put that in the "Simple answers for simple minds" suitable for wingnut consumption, your chances of winning the electoral college are a lot better if you win the popular vote. LOL
You're Never Alone With A Schizophrenic!
Personal Ignore Policy PIP: I like civil discourse. I will give you all the respect in the world if you respect me. Mouth off to me, or express overt racism, you will be PERMANENTLY Ignore Listed. Zero tolerance. No exceptions. I'll never read a word you write, even if quoted by another, nor respond to you, nor participate in your threads. ... Ignore the shallow. Cherish the thoughtful. Long Live Civil Discourse, Mutual Respect, and Good Debate! ps: Feel free to adopt my PIP. It works well.
Wouldn't surprise me to see our "next president" be Mike Pence...sometime in the middle of next year.
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