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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    I thnk i posted a thread but this is really good..

    Schiffting to Phase 2 of Collusion

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    Mr. Schiff turned this week to a dependable scribe—the Washington Post’s David Ignatius—to lay out the next chapter of the penny dreadful. Mr. Ignatius was the original conduit for the leak about former national security adviser Mike Flynn’s conversations with a Russian ambassador, and the far-fetched claims that Mr. Flynn had violated the Logan Act of 1799. Mr. Schiff has now dictated to Mr. Ignatius a whole new collusion theory. Forget Carter Page, Paul Manafort, George Papadopoulos—whoever. The real Trump-Russia canoodling rests in “Trump’s finances.” The future president was “doing business with Russia” and “seeking Kremlin help.” [from link in prior post]
    __________

    ‘The next chapter in the penny dreadful’ lol.

    Victor Davis Hanson had a good piece on the attempted coup this past week. And Hanson is taken seriously in ways a Hannity isn’t. He’s a conservative thinker [a respected classicist and historian] but not a die-hard partisan that won’t call out Trump when it’s called for.

    https://amgreatness.com/2019/02/17/a...f-a-dead-coup/
    Coup has started. First of many steps. Impeachment will follow ultimately~WB attorney Mark Zaid, January 2017

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    he authors, accomplices, and dupes of this attempted overthrow of constitutional government are now well along in reciting their misconduct without embarrassment or remorse because—in fired FBI Director James Comey’s formulation—a “higher duty” than the oath they swore to uphold the Constitution compelled them. Or—in fired FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe’s words—“the threat” was too great. Nevermind that the nature of “the threat” was that the people might elect someone he and Comey disapproved of as president, and that that person might actually serve his term, as elected.

    A Long List of Offenders—and Offenses
    The extent of the criminal misconduct of the former law enforcement and intelligence chiefs is now notorious, but to make the right point here, it has to be summarized. The fact that the officially preferred candidate lied to federal officials about her emails and acted in outright contempt of Congress and the legal process in the destruction of evidence, was simply ignored by the FBI director, who announced that she would not be prosecuted, though he had no authority to make that determination.

    The dossier of salacious gossip and defamatory falsehoods amassed by a retired British spy from the lowest grade of intelligence sources in Russia, commissioned and paid for by the Clinton campaign and Democratic National Committee, was circulated to the media by high public officials and cited in illegal and dishonest applications to authorize surveillance of the campaign of the other presidential candidate. A special counsel was empowered on the false pretext of the necessity to get to the bottom of Trump-Russian collusion in the election, of which there was and remains no evidence, because it did not occur and was a complete partisan fabrication.

    The special counsel then packed his staff with militant Clinton partisans, and acted very late and only when his hand was forced by the media to remove two officials who referred in texts to each other to the Bureau’s ability to smear and provoke the impeachment of the winning candidate as “an insurance policy” against his filling the office to which he was elected.

    Large sections of the media colluded with the Democratic campaign and produced the doctrine that anything was justifiable, no matter how dishonest, to destroy the incoming president’s reputation and damage him in public opinion polls to legitimize attempts to remove him from office. Large sections of the media deliberately deluged the public with stories they knew to be false about the new president and referred to him in terms of unprecedented vituperation in what purported to be reportage and not comment.

    This unorganized but widespread campaign of defamation was taken up by a great number of ordinarily newsworthy celebrities and was accompanied by false, unresearched stories denigrating President Trump’s supporters, such as the false claims about Catholic school students’ treatment of an elderly native American and the false claim that actor Jussie Smollett had been beaten up and reviled by Trump supporters. The former intelligence chiefs of the nation under President Obama repeatedly have accused this president of treason, the most heinous of all crimes, and have asserted with the authority of their former positions that the Russians determined the result of the 2016 presidential election. They knew this to be entirely false.

    Distracting Public Attention
    The special counsel has failed to find any evidence of the collusion and electoral interference that was the justification for establishing his inquiry, and the Democrats are already expressing disappointment in his failure to produce such evidence when the leading Democratic members of congressional investigative committees still robotically claim to have at least prima facie evidence of such collusion.

    The dishonest attempt of much of the opposition and what even left-leaning media-monitoring organizations record as 90 percent of the national media, continued for more than two years to try to condition the country to believe that the president had committed the “high crimes and misdemeanors” required by the Constitution for impeachment and removal from office.

    The special counsel, apart from smearing the president, distracted public attention from or tended to justify the ever more evident misconduct of the president’s enemies. And we now know that Comey, despite his “higher duty,” lied to the president about his not being a target of an FBI investigation, illegally leaked to the New York Times the contents of a self-serving memo he purloined from the government, and lied to Congress by claiming 245 times in one sitting to be ignorant of recent matters that no one of sound mind could have forgotten.

    And now we have Andrew McCabe’s proud confirmation that he and Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein not only continued the illegal counterintelligence investigation of President Trump, but actively discussed methods of securing his removal from office by deliberate misuse of a variety of laws, including the Emoluments Clause, the 25th Amendment to deal with mental incompetence, and the Logan Act of 1799, which has never been used successfully and has not been tested in 150 years.

    Make Those Responsible Pay at the Polls
    This entire monstrous travesty is finally coming apart without even waiting for the horrible disappointment of the special counsel’s inability to adduce a scrap of evidence to justify his replication of Torquemada as an inquisitor and of the Gestapo and KGB at rounding up and accusing unarmed individuals who were not flight risks. The collapse of this grotesque putsch, under the irresistible pressure of a functioning attorney general and Senate committees that are not hamstrung by NeverTrumpers, will cause a revulsion against the Democratic Party that will be seismic and prolong

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Beto Omar View Post
    Mr. Schiff turned this week to a dependable scribe—the Washington Post’s David Ignatius—to lay out the next chapter of the penny dreadful. Mr. Ignatius was the original conduit for the leak about former national security adviser Mike Flynn’s conversations with a Russian ambassador, and the far-fetched claims that Mr. Flynn had violated the Logan Act of 1799. Mr. Schiff has now dictated to Mr. Ignatius a whole new collusion theory. Forget Carter Page, Paul Manafort, George Papadopoulos—whoever. The real Trump-Russia canoodling rests in “Trump’s finances.” The future president was “doing business with Russia” and “seeking Kremlin help.” [from link in prior post]
    __________

    ‘The next chapter in the penny dreadful’ lol.

    Victor Davis Hanson had a good piece on the attempted coup this past week. And Hanson is taken seriously in ways a Hannity isn’t. He’s a conservative thinker [a respected classicist and historian] but not a die-hard partisan that won’t call out Trump when it’s called for.

    https://amgreatness.com/2019/02/17/a...f-a-dead-coup/
    it is excellent. I posted it in APP

    Autopsy of a Dead Coup
    https://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...of-a-Dead-Coup

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Beto Omar View Post
    The Comey/Clinton debacle is exactly why there will be nothing said of non-crimes in the Mullet report.

    Comey was way out of line when he exonerated Hillary—and he should have been fired on the spot for it, by Obama. It wasn’t Comey’s role to charge/exonerate Hillary: that should have been left to a grand jury since AG Lynch kinda/sorta recused.

    Likewise, AG Barr would be out of line for reporting on Mullet-findings that don’t rise to the level of crimes or criminal activity. Mullet was appointed as a prosecutor—not as a source for providing grist for a conspiracy theory mill.
    Mueller WAS NOT appointed as a prosecutor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    Mueller WAS NOT appointed as a prosecutor.
    Really, Frankie lol?

    What is Mullet then? A kind of Torquemada?
    Coup has started. First of many steps. Impeachment will follow ultimately~WB attorney Mark Zaid, January 2017

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    What should be obvious to everyone by now is that supporters of Donald Trump want a sanitized version (by a recent Trump appointee) of the report out...

    ...and the rest of us want the entire report out.

    And the assholes who continue support of Donald Trump...the people who want to hide some of the report...want to claim that our side is the one who wants to hide stuff.

    Ya cannot make this shit up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Beto Omar View Post
    Really, Frankie lol?

    What is Mullet then? A kind of Torquemada?
    He is an investigator...not a prosecutor.

    Specifically...not a prosecutor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    What should be obvious to everyone by now is that supporters of Donald Trump want a sanitized version (by a recent Trump appointee) of the report out...

    ...and the rest of us want the entire report out.

    And the assholes who continue support of Donald Trump...the people who want to hide some of the report...want to claim that our side is the one who wants to hide stuff.

    Ya cannot make this shit up!
    We couldn’t agree more on the last sentence, Frankie lol.

    What are the DOJ guidelines on the release of Special Counsel reports?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    He is an investigator...not a prosecutor.

    Specifically...not a prosecutor.
    Always majoring in the minors, eh Frankie lol.
    Coup has started. First of many steps. Impeachment will follow ultimately~WB attorney Mark Zaid, January 2017

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    "What should be obvious to everyone by now is that supporters of Donald Trump want a sanitized version (by a recent Trump appointee) of the report out...'

    Untrue, I am a supporter of President Trump and I want the entire report to be released...with classified methods and means redacted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Beto Omar View Post
    We couldn’t agree more on the last sentence, Frankie lol.

    What are the DOJ guidelines on the release of Special Counsel reports?
    It doesn't matter what they are.

    The FACTS are that a segment of the population wants parts of the report hidden...and another segment wants the entire report released.

    No matter what...for the segment who wants parts hidden to suggest that the segment that wants everything release...ARE TRYING TO HIDE SOMETHING...

    ...makes no sense at all.

    If anyone is trying to hide something (not saying anyone is)...but IF ANYONE IS TRYING TO HIDE SOMETHING...

    ...it sure as hell is not the segment asking for total release.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl View Post
    "What should be obvious to everyone by now is that supporters of Donald Trump want a sanitized version (by a recent Trump appointee) of the report out...'

    Untrue, I am a supporter of President Trump and I want the entire report to be released...with classified methods and means redacted.
    If it is necessary to read my comment with the modifier "many of the supporters of Donald Trump"...please do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl View Post
    "What should be obvious to everyone by now is that supporters of Donald Trump want a sanitized version (by a recent Trump appointee) of the report out...'

    Untrue, I am a supporter of President Trump and I want the entire report to be released...with classified methods and means redacted.
    Then the documents should be redacted to gibberish like they were whenever republicans were leading the House Committee lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    If it is necessary to read my comment with the modifier "many of the supporters of Donald Trump"...please do it.
    Better, Frank.

    I want the truth. The truth will stand until the end of time.

    Whether collusion is or is not a crime, anyone who colludes with a foreign power to influence our elections should be drawn and quartered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    It doesn't matter what they are.

    The FACTS are that a segment of the population wants parts of the report hidden...and another segment wants the entire report released.

    No matter what...for the segment who wants parts hidden to suggest that the segment that wants everything release...ARE TRYING TO HIDE SOMETHING...

    ...makes no sense at all.

    If anyone is trying to hide something (not saying anyone is)...but IF ANYONE IS TRYING TO HIDE SOMETHING...

    ...it sure as hell is not the segment asking for total release.
    What is it with you lefties and breaking rules, Frankie lol?

    The DOJ guidelines should be followed on the release of Mullet’s report. The Resistance doesn’t get to pick and choose on when the Electoral College should be adhered to, when the 25th Amendment is applicable, when it’s lawful to get FISA warrants on innocent tax payers—you get the idea.

    Enough is enough.
    Coup has started. First of many steps. Impeachment will follow ultimately~WB attorney Mark Zaid, January 2017

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