Illegals getting bigger refunds than american taxpayers!

[LV426]

What a poor excuse for a human being you are.
First, I wouldn't know if Russia cut their taxes.
Second, unlike you, I pay federal income taxes.
Third, I'm not complaining, although I do despise
supporting trash like you who won't even try to
support yourself. Get a life, loser.

You're so dumb, you were conned by Donald Trump.

[Mr.Badguy]

Illeeeeegals REEEEEEEEEE

[Taichiliberal]

Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
As always, the devil is in the details:

https://www.factcheck.org/2012/05/ta...al-immigrants/

Yes you are correct, and as usual Bleeding heart liberal lie and try to make the emotional plea, while we have children who are American starving, and starving vets on the street while they feed their kids in Mexico. The reasoning is so democrats can Overwhelm our system, leading to Government intervention/More Government/Socialism.

During the committee markup, Democratic Rep. John Lewis of Georgia spoke emotionally against the measure and said it “attacks our nation’s children. Our children! The little ones, the innocent ones.”

He argued that those who benefit are “American children,” even though the ones who claim the credit are their working parents.

Rep. Lewis, April 18: The benefits go to the United States citizen children. My God! Listen! . . . [T]he question must be raised, where is our concern? Where is our compassion? Where is our heart? Where is our soul?

Lewis isn’t entirely correct: Non-citizen children can qualify if they are legally residents and have at least an ITIN. And the requirements aren’t vigorously enforced. The IG report said the IRS management doesn’t demand that parents submit documentation to prove that the children they are claiming actually reside in the U.S., something the IG recommended and IRS management said it lacked legal authority to do. So it is at least possible that some refunds are being paid based on children who aren’t citizens, or who aren’t even living in the U.S.

WTF is your point? The bottom line is that unlike the subject title of this thread, the situation is NOT "en total" as implied...and applications are NOT a guarantee of benefits. But in typical MAGA head fashion, all that is needed is a SOME actual cases in order to make blanket statements and imply exaggerations as fact.

[Taichiliberal]

Fake fact-checkers citing fake news?

So tell the readers, chuckles, how do YOU determine what is true and what isn't? What news sources do you deem truthful? I'll respond to a real answer, and not just more MAGA hat smoke blowing.

[Taichiliberal]

Numerous investigations by the Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration have chronicled not only improper Child Tax Credit fraud and error payments ranging from $5.9 billion to $7.1 billion, but schemes such as nearly 24,000 ITIN payments going to the same address. The audit reports also found IRS management was “not concerned with addressing questionable applications” but “interested only in the volume of applications that can be processed, regardless of whether they are fraudulent.”

that very much sounds like our federal bureaucracy

True enough, but are they all "illegal alien" perps, or a mixture with the standard legal and historical American cheaters?

[reagansghost]

What question did I allegedly dodge?

I'll understand if you can't explain.

Illegal immigrants need only one number to access billions of dollars in free taxpayer cash.

The Individual Tax Identification Number (ITIN) unlocks an exclusive gateway for non-citizens to receive monies meant for working, low-income Americans. The nine-digit code was created by bureaucrats in 1996 for foreigners who had to deal with the IRS. It allows people without a Social Security number, including those in the country illegally, to file taxes.

“It’s just a farce to say it was created to collect taxes,” Robert Rector, senior research fellow at the Heritage Foundation, told Fox News. “It’s nothing but a welfare program designed for illegal immigrants. ITINS are for tourists or illegals. No ITIN filer is eligible to work in the United States.”

The problem with ITIN, critics say, is gives non-citizens access to federal cash that they should not be entitled to receive. Once illegal immigrants file ITIN tax returns, they can apply for a Child Tax Credit – which entitles them to $1,000 per child. Unlike the Earned Income Tax Credit, which requires a Social Security Number to qualify, the Child Tax Credit is a cash program that does not.

Critics say that makes it ripe for abuse.

Numerous investigations by the Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration have chronicled not only improper Child Tax Credit fraud and error payments ranging from $5.9 billion to $7.1 billion, but schemes such as nearly 24,000 ITIN payments going to the same address. The audit reports also found IRS management was “not concerned with addressing questionable applications” but “interested only in the volume of applications that can be processed, regardless of whether they are fraudulent.”

Another audit report examining ITIN usage found Child Tax Credit claims more than quadrupled in five years, from $924 million in 2005 to $4.2 billion in 2010.

An agency spokesman said the IRS recently paid $5.7 billion to ITIN for those claiming child tax credit and in 2015 it paid $3.4 billion.

A Social Security number is required to qualify for any federal public benefit. Green card holders, refugees and those granted asylum receive Social Security Numbers. But workers without a Social Security Number can still file taxes – and apply for certain tax credits – with an ITIN number.

“If you don’t have a Social Security number, you shouldn’t be getting a tax payment,” David North of the Center for Immigration Studies told Fox News. “It keeps happening and nobody pays attention.”

Indiana Congressman Luke Messer is resurrecting an effort to address the issue.

“After eight years of the Obama administration, it’s clear the law isn’t clear enough,” Messer told Fox News. “There is no policy reason why we should be supporting families who are here illegally.”


https://www.foxnews.com/politics/groups-want-trump-to-close-loophole-allowing-illegal-immigrants-to-abuse-tax-credits

stop with all the bullshit, you just proved my claim undocumented aliens pay taxes w/o a SS number, thanks

listen up stupid..............now answer my question..........how in the fuck do undocumented aliens get REFUNDS if they DON'T PAY TAXES?

is your feeble mind so far gone you can't understand this simple question?

wtf is wrong with you?

[RB 60]

You're so dumb, you were conned by Donald Trump.

Conned? Just how was I conned?
I said I voted for who I thought was the lesser of 2 evils.
Between Trump trying to keep his campaign promises and
the mindless hateful assholes like you, I'm convinced that
I made the right choice.

[Earl]

"The title of the report summed up the IG’s finding: “Individuals Who Are Not Authorized to Work in the United States Were Paid $4.2 Billion in Refundable Credits.”

The credits currently amount to $1,000 per child, and they are “refundable,” meaning that parents may receive refunds even when they do not owe any tax.

The IG report stated that more than 2.3 million persons who did not have Social Security numbers valid for working in the U.S. got an average of roughly $1,800 each in 2010 in child tax credit refunds. That included 9,000 illegal immigrants who each got a total of $10,000 or more by retroactively claiming credits for tax years prior to 2010."

[Earl]

Why would an illegal (non-citizen) get a tax refund? They are not supposed to be here.

[StoneByStone]

If this is true, I won't even be mad. I'll be too busy appreciating the irony.

[Earl]

The 4.2 billion dollars stolen by illegals (non-citizens) would go a long way toward feeding hungry children and taking care of VETERANS.

[LV426]

Conned? Just how was I conned?
I said I voted for who I thought was the lesser of 2 evils.

The con was making you think Trump was the lesser of two evils.

Between Drumpf trying to keep his campaign promises and
the mindless hateful assholes like you, I'm convinced that
I made the right choice.

You were conned into making a poor choice, and he hasn't kept his campaign promises, like Mexico paying for a wall along the Southern border, lowering drug costs, reducing the debt, etc.

And basing your judgment on the reactions of others seems to be an excuse.

[Legion]

stop with all the bullshit, you just proved my claim undocumented aliens pay taxes w/o a SS number, thanks listen up stupid..............now answer my question..........how in the fuck do undocumented aliens get REFUNDS if they DON'T PAY TAXES? is your feeble mind so far gone you can't understand this simple question? wtf is wrong with you?

It's addressed in the quote you just posted.

Numerous investigations by the Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration have chronicled not only improper Child Tax Credit fraud and error payments ranging from $5.9 billion to $7.1 billion, but schemes such as nearly 24,000 ITIN payments going to the same address. The audit reports also found IRS management was “not concerned with addressing questionable applications” but “interested only in the volume of applications that can be processed, regardless of whether they are fraudulent.”

Another audit report examining ITIN usage found Child Tax Credit claims more than quadrupled in five years, from $924 million in 2005 to $4.2 billion in 2010.

An agency spokesman said the IRS recently paid $5.7 billion to ITIN for those claiming child tax credit and in 2015 it paid $3.4 billion.

A Social Security number is required to qualify for any federal public benefit. Green card holders, refugees and those granted asylum receive Social Security Numbers. But workers without a Social Security Number can still file taxes – and apply for certain tax credits – with an ITIN number.

“If you don’t have a Social Security number, you shouldn’t be getting a tax payment,” David North of the Center for Immigration Studies told Fox News.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/groups-want-trump-to-close-loophole-allowing-illegal-immigrants-to-abuse-tax-credits

I'll understand if you pretend you didn't see it.

[Legion]

So tell the readers, chuckles, how do YOU determine what is true and what isn't? What news sources do you deem truthful? I'll respond to a real answer, and not just more MAGA hat smoke blowing.

I consider the available evidence from a variety of sources, and use critical thinking skills to determine what is provable by cross-checking.

[RB 60]

The con was making you think Trump was the lesser of two evils.




You were conned into making a poor choice, and he hasn't kept his campaign promises, like Mexico paying for a wall along the Southern border, lowering drug costs, reducing the debt, etc.

And basing your judgment on the reactions of others seems to be an excuse.

Believe what you will, you're just another incompetent fool who has achieved nothing in life.