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    Quote Originally Posted by Triggered Lizard View Post
    Oh just great. I already gave the biggest dumbass award to TDAK, and now someone upstaged him with a Facebook link.
    Is the story incorrect?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolverine View Post
    Try googling this and see what you find tranny illegals getting bigger tax refunds
    yes because everything is true on the interwebs!

    bet you're a fundy christian
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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    Can you explain how an illegal alien with no Social Security account and no right to work in the US pays income taxes?
    happens all the time dumbass

    why would they be eligible for a tax REFUND if they don't pay taxes?

    are you really this fuckin stupid?

    stuff more deflections pussy

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    People who illegally immigrate to the U.S. have any number of reasons for doing so. Although U.S. tax law isn't likely to be high on most immigrants' list, it does have some features that can make their lives here at least a little better financially.

    One of these features are refundable tax credits. They're especially attractive because they provide a tax refund even if the individual pays no federal income taxes.

    Two of the most widely claimed refundable tax credits are the Earned Income Tax Credit (EITC) and the Child Tax Credit (CTC). Both were initially designed as a subsidy to lower-income people who want to work but need financial assistance to do so.

    These tax credits can result in a tax refund of up to $6,431 in 2018 (for the EITC) and up to $2,000 for each qualifying child (for the CTC). Tax filers with qualifying income and no children can still claim an EITC of up to $519. All of the EITC and up to $1,400 of the CTC is refundable, meaning filers who claim these credits will receive a refund even if they pay zero federal taxes.

    The EITC and CTC have been found to be especially prone to fraud, so the soonest the IRS can issue tax refunds for people who claim them is later in February. This gives the IRS extra time to vet the returns and the identity of those filing them.

    There's good reason for this: The estimated improper payment rate for the CTC was as high as 30 percent, resulting in improper payments of up to $7 billion per year. The most recent IRS review estimated that about 24 percent of EITC refunds, totaling over $14 billion annually, were paid improperly.

    So how do immigrants obtain a Social Security number that will allow them to claim these tax credits and other government services? Generally, only lawfully admitted noncitizens authorized to work in the U.S. by the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) can get a Social Security number valid for work-related reasons. Anyone who has a Social Security number has their wages reported to the IRS and the Social Security Administration.

    Generally, illegal immigrants who aren't authorized to work can apply for an Individual Taxpayer Identification Number (ITIN) and use it for tax purposes, including filing tax returns.

    Applying for a Social Security number is free. Illegal immigrants have two ways to get one. You can apply in your home country before coming to the U.S. when filing out an application with the U.S. Department of State for an immigrant visa and work permit. In almost all cases, you won't have to visit a Social Security office when you arrive in the U.S.


    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/how-illegal-immigrants-can-claim-u-s-tax-credits

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    Quote Originally Posted by guno View Post
    Hey it's on facebook it must be true!!!
    BLAHAHAHAHA! Good one!

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    Quote Originally Posted by reagansghost View Post
    happens all the time dumbass why would they be eligible for a tax REFUND if they don't pay taxes? are you really this fuckin stupid? stuff more deflections pussy
    I didn't think you could explain, and I was correct.

    Read and learn:

    In 1996, the Internal Revenue Service created the ITIN to provide a way for noncitizens who earn income in the United States, including legally-present noncitizens who do not have Social Security numbers, to pay taxes on money earned in the United States while not being technically employed by a U.S employer. For example, ITINs allow foreign nationals to pay taxes on the interest earned in a U.S. bank or investment account. They also allow spouses of work-authorized visa-holders to pay taxes on self-employment income, among other uses.

    Most experts believe that the vast majority of tax returns filed with ITINs today are filed by undocumented immigrants rather than the intended recipient groups—a few categories of noncitizens who do not have a Social Security number and are not authorized to work but who are still earning income and legally residing in the United States. In 2010, ITINs were used to file over 3 million federal tax returns.

    All that is required to obtain an ITIN is an application form that requires basic information such as one’s name, date of birth, and address, along with a filled-in federal income tax return, and proof of identity— not proof of work authorization or proof that you are in the United States legally. Those with Social Security numbers are not eligible to receive an ITIN. Once an undocumented immigrant has an ITIN, they are able to legally file tax returns.

    Tax information on ITIN holders is legally protected under privacy laws and cannot be shared with the Department of Homeland Security or Immigration and Customs Enforcement, thus an undocumented worker can obtain one without fear of the information being used to find and deport them. While this disconnect is a source of ongoing tension between the agencies, sharing this information would require legislative action—either a new law or an amendment to the Immigration and Nationality Act.

    https://bipartisanpolicy.org/blog/how-do-undocumented-immigrants-pay-federal-taxes-an-explainer/

    Then there are tax credits, which people who pay NO TAXES at all are eligible for.

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    As always, the devil is in the details:

    https://www.factcheck.org/2012/05/ta...al-immigrants/
    During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.

    George Orwell

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    I didn't think you could explain, and I was correct.
    yep, as you dodge the question

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    Quote Originally Posted by reagansghost View Post
    yep, as you dodge the question
    What question did I allegedly dodge?

    I'll understand if you can't explain.

    Illegal immigrants need only one number to access billions of dollars in free taxpayer cash.

    The Individual Tax Identification Number (ITIN) unlocks an exclusive gateway for non-citizens to receive monies meant for working, low-income Americans. The nine-digit code was created by bureaucrats in 1996 for foreigners who had to deal with the IRS. It allows people without a Social Security number, including those in the country illegally, to file taxes.

    “It’s just a farce to say it was created to collect taxes,” Robert Rector, senior research fellow at the Heritage Foundation, told Fox News. “It’s nothing but a welfare program designed for illegal immigrants. ITINS are for tourists or illegals. No ITIN filer is eligible to work in the United States.”

    The problem with ITIN, critics say, is gives non-citizens access to federal cash that they should not be entitled to receive. Once illegal immigrants file ITIN tax returns, they can apply for a Child Tax Credit – which entitles them to $1,000 per child. Unlike the Earned Income Tax Credit, which requires a Social Security Number to qualify, the Child Tax Credit is a cash program that does not.

    Critics say that makes it ripe for abuse.

    Numerous investigations by the Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration have chronicled not only improper Child Tax Credit fraud and error payments ranging from $5.9 billion to $7.1 billion, but schemes such as nearly 24,000 ITIN payments going to the same address. The audit reports also found IRS management was “not concerned with addressing questionable applications” but “interested only in the volume of applications that can be processed, regardless of whether they are fraudulent.”

    Another audit report examining ITIN usage found Child Tax Credit claims more than quadrupled in five years, from $924 million in 2005 to $4.2 billion in 2010.

    An agency spokesman said the IRS recently paid $5.7 billion to ITIN for those claiming child tax credit and in 2015 it paid $3.4 billion.

    A Social Security number is required to qualify for any federal public benefit. Green card holders, refugees and those granted asylum receive Social Security Numbers. But workers without a Social Security Number can still file taxes – and apply for certain tax credits – with an ITIN number.

    “If you don’t have a Social Security number, you shouldn’t be getting a tax payment,” David North of the Center for Immigration Studies told Fox News. “It keeps happening and nobody pays attention.”

    Indiana Congressman Luke Messer is resurrecting an effort to address the issue.

    “After eight years of the Obama administration, it’s clear the law isn’t clear enough,” Messer told Fox News. “There is no policy reason why we should be supporting families who are here illegally.”



    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/groups-want-trump-to-close-loophole-allowing-illegal-immigrants-to-abuse-tax-credits

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
    As always, the devil is in the details:

    https://www.factcheck.org/2012/05/ta...al-immigrants/
    Fake fact-checkers citing fake news?


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    Quote Originally Posted by LV426 View Post
    You mean the Russia Tax Cut didn't result in you not having to pay anything? Wha wha whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa?
    Did he say he thought it would?

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    Quote Originally Posted by guno View Post
    Hey it's on facebook it must be true!!!
    Posting a Facebook link as an argument, makes sure that argument falls flat, into a steaming pile of shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LV426 View Post
    You mean the Russia Tax Cut didn't result in you not having to pay anything?

    Wha wha whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa?
    What a poor excuse for a human being you are.
    First, I wouldn't know if Russia cut their taxes.
    Second, unlike you, I pay federal income taxes.
    Third, I'm not complaining, although I do despise
    supporting trash like you who won't even try to
    support yourself. Get a life, loser.
    Common sense is not a gift, it's a punishment because you have to deal with everyone who doesn't have it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
    As always, the devil is in the details:

    https://www.factcheck.org/2012/05/ta...al-immigrants/
    Yes you are correct, and as usual Bleeding heart liberal lie and try to make the emotional plea, while we have children who are American starving, and starving vets on the street while they feed their kids in Mexico. The reasoning is so democrats can Overwhelm our system, leading to Government intervention/More Government/Socialism.

    During the committee markup, Democratic Rep. John Lewis of Georgia spoke emotionally against the measure and said it “attacks our nation’s children. Our children! The little ones, the innocent ones.”

    He argued that those who benefit are “American children,” even though the ones who claim the credit are their working parents.

    Rep. Lewis, April 18: The benefits go to the United States citizen children. My God! Listen! . . . [T]he question must be raised, where is our concern? Where is our compassion? Where is our heart? Where is our soul?

    Lewis isn’t entirely correct: Non-citizen children can qualify if they are legally residents and have at least an ITIN. And the requirements aren’t vigorously enforced. The IG report said the IRS management doesn’t demand that parents submit documentation to prove that the children they are claiming actually reside in the U.S., something the IG recommended and IRS management said it lacked legal authority to do. So it is at least possible that some refunds are being paid based on children who aren’t citizens, or who aren’t even living in the U.S.

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    Numerous investigations by the Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration have chronicled not only improper Child Tax Credit fraud and error payments ranging from $5.9 billion to $7.1 billion, but schemes such as nearly 24,000 ITIN payments going to the same address. The audit reports also found IRS management was “not concerned with addressing questionable applications” but “interested only in the volume of applications that can be processed, regardless of whether they are fraudulent.”
    that very much sounds like our federal bureaucracy

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