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    Actually, when you get down to it, there is no socialism without a little capitalism, and visa versa. For the Orange Oaf to rail against socialism in his jingoistic SOTU speech is hysterical, given that Trump Enterprises takes every and any gov't handout it can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    It DOES belong in some kind of hall of fame, doesn't it?
    It merits Smithsonian consideration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
    Actually, when you get down to it, there is no socialism without a little capitalism, and visa versa. For the Orange Oaf to rail against socialism in his jingoistic SOTU speech is hysterical, given that Trump Enterprises takes every and any gov't handout it can.
    Venezuela. Take food if you go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl View Post
    Venezuela. Take food if you go.
    Something is wrong when a country says it’s 40 million rolls short on toilet paper
    https://qz.com/85373/something-is-wr...-toilet-paper/
    Super market shelves have already been stripped of toilet paper for weeks. But while matters of personal hygiene have taken center stage, Venezuela’s economic health is most worrisome.

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    Is the industrial working class in power in Venezuela? Is there an industrial working class in Venezuela? Should only obedient American colonies be allowed food? Does any American rightist have the slightest idea what socialism IS?

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    America has sent food and medicine to the Venezuelan border. It has been refused entrance because it would be an admission that this Socialist nation can not feed its own citizens.
    Last edited by Earl; 02-20-2019 at 09:06 AM.

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    Is Maduro really getting death threats from Cuba? Been reading a few pieces on this. Amazing what millennial snowflakes don't realize about real life, dictatorships and history in this world.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/internat...ezuela/528003/

    https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics...atened-by-cuba

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl View Post
    No, you are wrong.

    "WASHINGTON — There is no evidence that Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election affected the actual vote count, according to the first installment of the Senate Intelligence Committee's Russia report, released Tuesday."

    "The Committee has not seen any evidence that vote tallies were manipulated or that voter registration information was deleted or modified," the report said, confirming a January 2017 assessment by U.S. intelligence agencies."
    I was mostly being sarcastic. It is remarkable to see that this was the thing that finally turned the left against Russia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howard the Duck View Post
    I was mostly being sarcastic. It is remarkable to see that this was the thing that finally turned the left against Russia.
    The "useful idiots" who loved the old USSR now hate the Russian Federation.

    Go figure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    It DOES belong in some kind of hall of fame, doesn't it?
    Perfectly sums up how some people refer to single payer as "free health care".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl View Post
    Venezuela. Take food if you go.
    Venezuela.....read/listen to something besides MSM and Fox before you mouth off:

    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-fr...b_9401644.html

    https://nacla.org/news/2018/05/18/un...racy-venezuela

    Now, all you MAGA wearers have to actually fault the content, not just bitch & moan about the source. Carry on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    incorrect to conflate essential services to "socialism"

    Socialist goes to the method of value distribution of goods and services.

    Market forces control capitalism Q.who controls socialist distribution? A.bureaucrats! *what could go wrong?*
    Almost every single Republican on this board called Obama a socialist, a Marxist, a commie, or some permutation thereof.

    In reality, Obama is your standard center-left politician who believes there is a need and a role for the public commons in addition to a for-profit free enterprise system.

    It is way, way too late to try to walk back, retreat, and shift the goal posts and belatedly try to claim that what you really meant is that socialism only is really what Joseph Stalin and Mao Tse Tung were doing.

    You wingnuts have called everything from Obama to the nation of Sweden "socialist". I intend to hold you accountable for that. Sweden shows that socialism works.

    Leading Republicans Call Western Europe "Socialist"

    Newt Gingrich has constantly accused the president of being a "European Socialist", often adding in a reference to an all-but-forgotten community activist from Chicago, who died in 1972, but whose Democratic-leaning writings are thought to have influenced the current president

    "I am for the Declaration of Independence; he is for the writing of Saul Alinsky. I am for the Constitution; he is for European socialism," Mr Gingrich told voters in Florida last week.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-16583813

    Leading Republicans Refer to Western Europe as "Socialists"

    ....(and let's not forget, rightwing message boarders have spent years calling western Europe "socialist")......

    Lately it seems that not a day goes by without a Republican presidential candidate portraying Europe as a socialist nightmare. Mitt Romney, Newt Gingrich and Rick Santorum paint a picture of the Old World as unfree, strangulated by bureaucratic and inefficient welfare systems, and unable to reform and modernize. To these Republicans, Europe seems to be the antipode to everything America is meant to be.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...=.310f3f267a8a

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
    Venezuela.....read/listen to something besides MSM and Fox before you mouth off:

    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-fr...b_9401644.html

    https://nacla.org/news/2018/05/18/un...racy-venezuela

    Now, all you MAGA wearers have to actually fault the content, not just bitch & moan about the source. Carry on.
    Venezuela.....read/listen to something besides the Huff Post before you mouth off.

    Carry on.

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    BILL DE BLASIO CORRECTS OCASIO-CORTEZ'S CLAIM ABOUT SPENDING AMAZON TAX BREAK MONEY

    "I'm a progressive too, but I'm pragmatic,” she said. “We are $4 billion less than we usually get and yet we are kicking out a company that would have been projected [to pay] over 10 years roughly $27 billion in taxes.”

    "New York Times columnist Andrew Ross Sorkin ripped into critics of the deal, saying it was evidence of a “financial literacy epidemic” in America."

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    My VT daughters are jubilant about Bernie entering the 2020 race. The rest of us, not so much.
    Why not? Because he's actually likeable?

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