Even at Top Colleges, Graduation Gaps Persist for Poor Students

[Mott the Hoople]

I wasn’t burned out, just sleep deprived. There is no easy way to get a college degree. Work...work...work. Study...study...study.

The solution for poor students is to work hard for as long as it takes before entering college. We had a 60 year old fellow in my class who had saved his money and breezed his way through double E. Two retired military guys, same thing. If you want something badly enough, you can do it.

Well I agree with you there...that's how I got through and that's what most people of middle class/working class simply have to do...and there's no way around that either.

Having said that....the chief barrier for those who are from low income families is still financial.

[canceled.2021.1]

I appreciate your passion as to whether or not you believe I’m a conservative. It’s clearly very important to you. And yes, this is a racial issue to you as to why you believe I’m not one. Always has been

Nope. It is because I don't believe you are one. That fact that you distill it down to a racial issue makes it more apparent that you are a leftist. Only leftists make everything about race which is what you are doing right now.

I have asked you repeatedly to find one post of mine where I state your aren't a conservative because of race and you fail to produce it. I have always made it about policy with you. You know that is true which is why, like a leftist, you try to distract using race.

[cawacko]

Nope. It is because I don't believe you are one. That fact that you distill it down to a racial issue makes it more apparent that you are a leftist. Only leftists make everything about race which is what you are doing right now.

I have asked you repeatedly to find one post of mine where I state your aren't a conservative because of race and you fail to produce it. I have always made it about policy with you. You know that is true which is why, like a leftist, you try to distract using race.

This is simple. How about you lay out what policies you believe makes one a conservative and then what policies you think I support that make me not a conservative.

[Earl]

Well I agree with you there...that's how I got through and that's what most people of middle class/working class simply have to do...and there's no way around that either.

Having said that....the chief barrier for those who are from low income families is still financial.

There is a way out of poverty. WORK...WORK...WORK. This country provides a way to escape poverty. It is not Socialism where Venezuelans are starving or Communism in the worker’s paradise of Cuba where the average wage is 21 dollars per month.It is freedom and Capitalism. The rest of the world who is trying to come here, think so too.

[domer76]

Because the black kid in her class got in with a lower GPA .

And USC told you that was the only reason? Sure they did.

[Vasquezrocks]

And USC told you that was the only reason? Sure they did.

No the black kid told her .....

[canceled.2021.1]

This is simple. How about you lay out what policies you believe makes one a conservative and then what policies you think I support that make me not a conservative.

You are pro open borders
You are pro abortion
You support shitty trade agreements that fuck over American workers
You support big money in education
You probably think yourself a "compassionate conservative" which is basically a big government lefty that likes tax cuts.

[domer76]

No the black kid told her .....

USC told him it was because he was black and she was white?

Sure they did.

[cawacko]

No the black kid told her .....

This is a great story. Have to give you credit. USC takes about 3,500 kids in their freshman class. Your white daughter got all A’s but didn’t get into USC because a black girl, who just so happened to be in her class and got worse grades and test scores, “took her spot”.

The chance of this story being true? About zero percent.

[Vasquezrocks]

This is a great story. Have to give you credit. USC takes about 3,500 kids in their freshman class. Your white daughter got all A’s but didn’t get into USC because a black girl, who just so happened to be in her class and got worse grades and test scores, “took her spot”.

The chance of this story being true? About zero percent.

Happens all the time .

Why It's OK for Colleges to Accept Minorities With Lower SAT Scores
By*Natalie Silver*|*April 11, 2012
The SATs are always scrutinized because they are a focal point of college admissions. As with most other tests, the people who do well think the SATs are a fair and accurate representation of their ability, while students who do poorly think the opposite.*

In my experience, even though some students are able to afford more SAT prep than others, the test is a fair indicator of aptitude, because affirmative action helps account for students’ socio-economic differences.

Let me explain. I took four months of private Kaplan SAT prep, which cost around $1,000 dollars, and scored a 2110 on my SAT. An African-American friend of mine took a free preparation course for the same amount of time, and scored a 1900. We had around the same grades, and my extra-curriculars were much better. We both applied to Georgetown University and Princeton University. While I was rejected from both, he was accepted. I cannot testify to the caliber of his essays or recommendations in comparison to my own. However, what seems clear is that the 210-point gap between our scores was balanced by Georgetown and Princeton’s affirmative action policies.

[Superfreak]

USC ...

How is that anything but someone's LAST choice? Your daughter may be book smart, but streetwise she is clearly an idiot if she liked USC

[Superfreak]

Because the black kid in her class got in with a lower GPA .

You do know that GPA is not the only criteria colleges look at for admissions?

[cawacko]

How is that anything but someone's LAST choice? Your daughter may be book smart, but streetwise she is clearly an idiot if she liked USC

There’s no way this dude has a daughter who is basically equivalent to a rock star.

[Superfreak]

One thing the left and the right can all agree on... USC is a shitty school. No one likes USC grads.

[Superfreak]

There’s no way this dude has a daughter who is basically equivalent to a rock star.

You are assuming of course that he is actually the father, that just might be what he was told.