Why Trump will win

[Darth Omar]

Congress has yielded more and more power to the executive branch over decades. In many areas, it has reduced the legislative branch to a mere pedestrian in government, leaving real governing decisions to a kind of “fourth branch”� of federal agencies. For their part, presidents have thus become more and more bold in circumventing Congress. When Obama gave a State of the Union proclaiming his intention to bypass Congress after it failed to pass immigration reform, Democrats applauded loudly.

The reason? Congress has never been particularly concerned over past declared emergencies, which have continued with perfunctory annual renewals. Most such emergencies are entirely unknown to the vast majority of Americans. Indeed, the first proclamation of a national emergency occurred under President Wilson in 1917, “arising from the insufficiency of maritime tonnage to carry the products of the farms, forests, mines, and manufacturing industries of the United States.”

Remember that national emergency over the “anchorage and movement of vessels” with respect to Cuba? How about the national emergency over uncut diamonds from Sierra Leone? Then there were the declarations over property owned by certain figures in Zimbabwe, the presidential election in Congo, and issues concerning Yemen, Burundi, Myanmar, Lebanon, Somalia, and South Sudan. All of these were “national emergencies.”

Curiously, Pelosi has called for the declaration of a national emergency to deal with the “epidemic of gun violence in America.”� She also said that she wished Trump would add that declaration but that a “Democratic president can do that.”� Yes, a Democratic president certainly could, and that is the key point here. Congress gave all presidents the power to make such declarations, and Pelosi is now making the case for Trump today.

While Democrats insist this emergency declaration is simply an effort to use executive power to get what Congress would not give Trump, any litigation would be an effort to use judicial power to do much the same thing. The House of Representatives would try to convince a federal judge of the merits against a wall, after failing to convince enough members of Congress to override the emergency declaration and a presidential veto.

That brings us back to Holmes. Congress has the authority to rescind the national emergency declaration of Trump with a vote of both chambers. The legislative branch should do so. If Congress cannot muster the votes, however, a federal judge is unlikely to do so. Simply put, the courts were not created to protect Congress from itself. Congress has been heading to hell for decades, and it is a bit late to complain about the destination.

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“The courts were not created to protect congress from itself”.

Pundit line of the week by Turley lol. Note the way this is supposed to work as opposed to what democrats are trying to do: the proper way to block Trump would be to rescind the Emergency Declaration in Congress. But that would put democrats in the position of hamstringing the next democrat president who wants to circumvent congress with ‘a phone and a pen’.

Rather than risk that outcome they will take their chances in the courts with the hope that John Roberts bails them out, again, when the issue finally arrives in front of SCOTUS.

What a cluster congress has become.

[Bourbon]

[anatta]

Congress has the authority to rescind the national emergency declaration of Trump with a vote of both chambers. The legislative branch should do so.
If Congress cannot muster the votes, however, a federal judge is unlikely to do so.

[canceled.2021.1]

I think it is starting to dawn on lefties that Trump is going to win

[Earl]

I think it is starting to dawn on lefties that Trump is going to win

President Trump will win and more importantly, the American people will win.

[Earl]

Hey, B.

Did you miss this?

"Americans have elected Donald J. Trump as the 45th President of the United States. The Republican Party candidate defeated the Democratic Party nominee, Hillary Clinton.

The result is a shock to most political experts and pollsters. On Tuesday morning in the U.S., most major polling groups were predicting a win for former Secretary of State Clinton.

But in the early hours of November 9, Clinton called Trump to concede the election.

The president-elect spoke to a crowd of supporters in New York City a short time later. He congratulated Clinton and praised her campaign effort. And he called for the nation to unite."

[Bourbon]

Hey, B.

Did you miss this?

"Americans have elected Donald J. Trump as the 45th President of the United States. The Republican Party candidate defeated the Democratic Party nominee, Hillary Clinton.

The result is a shock to most political experts and pollsters. On Tuesday morning in the U.S., most major polling groups were predicting a win for former Secretary of State Clinton.

But in the early hours of November 9, Clinton called Trump to concede the election.

The president-elect spoke to a crowd of supporters in New York City a short time later. He congratulated Clinton and praised her campaign effort. And he called for the nation to unite."

I pay no attention to what Trump says, just what he does.

[Darth Omar]

I pay no attention to what Trump says, just what he does.

That’s a recipe for becoming a Trump supporter lol.

[jimmymccready]

Congress has yielded more and more power to the executive branch over decades. In many areas, it has reduced the legislative branch to a mere pedestrian in government, leaving real governing decisions to a kind of “fourth branch”� of federal agencies. For their part, presidents have thus become more and more bold in circumventing Congress. When Obama gave a State of the Union proclaiming his intention to bypass Congress after it failed to pass immigration reform, Democrats applauded loudly.

The reason? Congress has never been particularly concerned over past declared emergencies, which have continued with perfunctory annual renewals. Most such emergencies are entirely unknown to the vast majority of Americans. Indeed, the first proclamation of a national emergency occurred under President Wilson in 1917, “arising from the insufficiency of maritime tonnage to carry the products of the farms, forests, mines, and manufacturing industries of the United States.”

Remember that national emergency over the “anchorage and movement of vessels” with respect to Cuba? How about the national emergency over uncut diamonds from Sierra Leone? Then there were the declarations over property owned by certain figures in Zimbabwe, the presidential election in Congo, and issues concerning Yemen, Burundi, Myanmar, Lebanon, Somalia, and South Sudan. All of these were “national emergencies.”

Curiously, Pelosi has called for the declaration of a national emergency to deal with the “epidemic of gun violence in America.”� She also said that she wished Trump would add that declaration but that a “Democratic president can do that.”� Yes, a Democratic president certainly could, and that is the key point here. Congress gave all presidents the power to make such declarations, and Pelosi is now making the case for Trump today.

While Democrats insist this emergency declaration is simply an effort to use executive power to get what Congress would not give Trump, any litigation would be an effort to use judicial power to do much the same thing. The House of Representatives would try to convince a federal judge of the merits against a wall, after failing to convince enough members of Congress to override the emergency declaration and a presidential veto.

That brings us back to Holmes. Congress has the authority to rescind the national emergency declaration of Trump with a vote of both chambers. The legislative branch should do so. If Congress cannot muster the votes, however, a federal judge is unlikely to do so. Simply put, the courts were not created to protect Congress from itself. Congress has been heading to hell for decades, and it is a bit late to complain about the destination.

https://jonathanturley.org/2019/02/1...mpression=true
______________

“The courts were not created to protect congress from itself”.

Pundit line of the week by Turley lol. Note the way this is supposed to work as opposed to what democrats are trying to do: the proper way to block Trump would be to rescind the Emergency Declaration in Congress. But that would put democrats in the position of hamstringing the next democrat president who wants to circumvent congress with ‘a phone and a pen’.

Rather than risk that outcome they will take their chances in the courts with the hope that John Roberts bails them out, again, when the issue finally arrives in front of SCOTUS.

What a cluster congress has become.

Roberts believes SCOTUS should not override Congress if at all possible. The OP may well be correct.

The Congress of 2021 will end the NEA and the Dem President will sign it.

[Getin the ring]

I think it is starting to dawn on lefties that Trump is going to win

They can acknowledge it, or not. Matters little to the reality of it

trump is going to be two term because not only is his base as strong as ever, but more and more people previously not on board are realizing, it's the economy stupid.
no denying all of the winning

and frankly the whining and constant negativity from the left is tiring, people don't want to live in the negative

[Darth Omar]

They can acknowledge it, or not. Matters little to the reality of it

trump is going to be two term because not only is his base as strong as ever, but more and more people previously not on board are realizing, it's the economy stupid.
no denying all of the winning

and frankly the whining and constant negativity from the left is tiring, people don't want to live in the negative

People can become immune to the negativity.

But what a stark contrast 2020 is shaping up to be. The choice will be Trump or socialism.

[MAGA MAN]

Hey, B.

Did you miss this?

"Americans have elected Donald J. Trump as the 45th President of the United States. The Republican Party candidate defeated the Democratic Party nominee, Hillary Clinton.

The result is a shock to most political experts and pollsters. On Tuesday morning in the U.S., most major polling groups were predicting a win for former Secretary of State Clinton.

But in the early hours of November 9, Clinton called Trump to concede the election.

The president-elect spoke to a crowd of supporters in New York City a short time later. He congratulated Clinton and praised her campaign effort. And he called for the nation to unite."

That never gets old.

[MAGA MAN]

The Congress of 2021 will end the NEA and the Dem President will sign it.

Who? Creepy Joe?

[dukkha]

Roberts believes SCOTUS should not override Congress if at all possible. The OP may well be correct.

The Congress of 2021 will end the NEA and the Dem President will sign it.

correct on Roberts. The statutory authority given to POTUS by Congress is overwhelming

[Stretch]

Congress has yielded more and more power to the executive branch over decades. In many areas, it has reduced the legislative branch to a mere pedestrian in government, leaving real governing decisions to a kind of “fourth branch”� of federal agencies. For their part, presidents have thus become more and more bold in circumventing Congress. When Obama gave a State of the Union proclaiming his intention to bypass Congress after it failed to pass immigration reform, Democrats applauded loudly.

The reason? Congress has never been particularly concerned over past declared emergencies, which have continued with perfunctory annual renewals. Most such emergencies are entirely unknown to the vast majority of Americans. Indeed, the first proclamation of a national emergency occurred under President Wilson in 1917, “arising from the insufficiency of maritime tonnage to carry the products of the farms, forests, mines, and manufacturing industries of the United States.”

Remember that national emergency over the “anchorage and movement of vessels” with respect to Cuba? How about the national emergency over uncut diamonds from Sierra Leone? Then there were the declarations over property owned by certain figures in Zimbabwe, the presidential election in Congo, and issues concerning Yemen, Burundi, Myanmar, Lebanon, Somalia, and South Sudan. All of these were “national emergencies.”

Curiously, Pelosi has called for the declaration of a national emergency to deal with the “epidemic of gun violence in America.”� She also said that she wished Trump would add that declaration but that a “Democratic president can do that.”� Yes, a Democratic president certainly could, and that is the key point here. Congress gave all presidents the power to make such declarations, and Pelosi is now making the case for Trump today.

While Democrats insist this emergency declaration is simply an effort to use executive power to get what Congress would not give Trump, any litigation would be an effort to use judicial power to do much the same thing. The House of Representatives would try to convince a federal judge of the merits against a wall, after failing to convince enough members of Congress to override the emergency declaration and a presidential veto.

That brings us back to Holmes. Congress has the authority to rescind the national emergency declaration of Trump with a vote of both chambers. The legislative branch should do so. If Congress cannot muster the votes, however, a federal judge is unlikely to do so. Simply put, the courts were not created to protect Congress from itself. Congress has been heading to hell for decades, and it is a bit late to complain about the destination.

https://jonathanturley.org/2019/02/1...mpression=true
______________

“The courts were not created to protect congress from itself”.

Pundit line of the week by Turley lol. Note the way this is supposed to work as opposed to what democrats are trying to do: the proper way to block Trump would be to rescind the Emergency Declaration in Congress. But that would put democrats in the position of hamstringing the next democrat president who wants to circumvent congress with ‘a phone and a pen’.

Rather than risk that outcome they will take their chances in the courts with the hope that John Roberts bails them out, again, when the issue finally arrives in front of SCOTUS.

What a cluster congress has become.

"If Congress cannot muster the votes, however, a federal judge is unlikely to do so. Simply put, the courts were not created to protect Congress from itself. Congress has been heading to hell for decades, and it is a bit late to complain about the destination."

How sublime. Just perfectly stated.