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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph View Post
    The national debt when Obama came into office was 10 trillion when he left office it was over 18 trillion.
    What was the debt when Bush came into office?

    $4.6T.

    So Bush more than doubled the debt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph View Post
    Yep......that's some deficit reduction.
    Deficits and debt are not the same thing, goober.

    Deficits add to debt.

    You are an economic illiterate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph View Post
    Now tell us how the preceding presidents of the past 2 decades are responsible for the debt accumulated while Obama was in office
    Prior to Obama, Bush added more to the debt than any President prior to him, and more than all Presidents put together.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph View Post
    Your digits are not dexterous enough to prompt the link to the government offices where this REAL DATA was collected?
    LOL!

    Here's Treasury Statements...show me where you're getting your #'s, liar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph View Post
    What? State and local taxes don't count as government revenue?
    Way to move the bar, jackass!

    We were talking about federal revenues, since federal revenues were affected by the changes to the federal tax code.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LV426 View Post
    What jobs?

    The pace of job growth in 2018 was worse than it was during Obama's second term.
    Fascinating bullshit. But then, you are a pathological lying dumbfuck.

    The U.S. economy gained 304,000 jobs in January 2019. The economy needs 150,000 new jobs each month to keep expanding.
    https://www.thebalance.com/jobs-repo...istics-3305732




    Quote Originally Posted by LV426 View Post
    Moving the bar, there!
    You always do; liars have to keep changing their claims.
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    Unless you just can't stand the idea of "ni**ers" teaching white kids.


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    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    That's contingent on who is running up the debt. It's actually laughable to hear libs complain about debts and deficits.
    Pointing out your hypocrisy on the debt and deficit doesn't mean we share your phony concerns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LV426 View Post
    I remember when Obama reduced the deficit.

    Obama and Clinton are the only two Presidents over the last 40 years to leave office with a deficit smaller than the one they inherited.
    Wow that sounds so great, except it didn't address the issue of the debt.

    Did the national debt increase or decrease under both of those Presidents?

    I will understand if you are afraid to answer

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    Quote Originally Posted by I Love America View Post
    Wow that sounds so great, except it didn't address the issue of the debt
    Prior to Obama, Bush added more to the debt than any President before him, and more than all Presidents combined.
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    Quote Originally Posted by I Love America View Post
    Did the national debt increase or decrease under both of those Presidents? I will understand if you are afraid to answer
    Oh, the debt increased of course, because the budget runs a deficit.

    The rate at which the debt increases is determined by the deficit.

    Obama and Clinton left office with smaller deficits than the ones you handed them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LV426 View Post
    Oh, the debt increased of course, because the budget runs a deficit.

    The rate at which the debt increases is determined by the deficit.

    Obama and Clinton left office with smaller deficits than the ones you handed them.
    Did they leave with higher debts than when they left? Yes or No?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LV426 View Post
    The revenues were not offset. Here are the Treasury receipts, calculate for yourself!

    Receipts
    Jan-2017: $344,069
    Feb-2017: $171,713
    Mar-2017: $216,584
    Apr-2017: $455,605
    May-2017: $240,418
    Jun-2017: $388,660
    Jul-2017: $232,040
    Aug-2017: $226,311
    Sep-2017: $348,722
    Oct-2017: $235,341
    Nov-2017: $208,374
    Dec-2017: $---,---
    Total-2017: $3,067,837

    Receipts
    Jan-2018: $361,038
    Feb-2018: $155,623
    Mar-2018: $210,832
    Apr-2018: $510,447
    May-2018: $217,075
    Jun-2018: $316,278
    Jul-2018: $225,266
    Aug-2018: $219,115
    Sep-2018: $343,559
    Oct-2018: $252,692
    Nov-2018: $205,961
    Dec-2018: $---,---
    Total-2017: $3,017,886

    December 2017 had revenues at $325,797. December 2018 revenues are due 2/13.

    So for the Russia Tax Cut to have paid for itself, it will need to have generated $375,000 in December 2018, which seems unlikely given the shutdown.

    So Jan-Nov, 2017 revenues were less than 2018
    Receipts 2017 = $3,316 billion
    Estimate for 2018 = $3,340 billion.

    $3,340 Billion > $3,316 billion.

    Moron. Revenues are not projected to be lower; therefore, tax receipts are HIGHER and the tax cut did not result in lower revenue. We have a SPENDING problem dumb fuck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by I Love America View Post
    Did they leave with higher debts than when they left? Yes or No?
    Yes.

    I never claimed otherwise.

    What I claimed was that they left with smaller deficits.

    You're the one trying to jump between debt and deficit but in doing so, you just look dumb.

    Prior to Obama, Bush added more to the debt than any President before him, and all Presidents combined.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LV426 View Post
    What jobs?

    The pace of job growth in 2018 was worse than it was during Obama's second term.





    Moving the bar, there!

    "over the length of this administration"

    Well, tax revenues generally grow regardless of who is President. The only times they don't are during economic downturns, like your recession, or when taxes are cut, like what happened from 2001-4 and now 2017-18.
    Explain to us just where this 30 Billion increase came from if LESS TAXES were collected.....if not from the fact that more people are entering the labor force than ever before under Obama.

    Here allow CNN (that great right wing news outlet that supports Trump with every breath....as compared to the left wing sites FACT CHECKERS are us like FACTCHECK.ORG, funded by the same left wing family that owned the Philadelphia Inquirer). Truth: FactCheck.org is funded entirely by a family trust controlled by the Annenburg family


    The (wink, wink) FACTS as presented by CNN


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    Quote Originally Posted by LV426 View Post
    Yes.

    I never claimed otherwise.

    What I claimed was that they left with smaller deficits.

    You're the one trying to jump between debt and deficit but in doing so, you just look dumb.

    Prior to Obama, Bush added more to the debt than any President before him, and all Presidents combined.

    pssst

    The thread is about the debt, not the deficit. Just sayin.

    Ohbummer added $8.588 trillion more than ANY other President from a nominal standpoint. That's the fact jack.

    Now here is where you scream and cry about percent increases to defend your affirmative action half white failure of a President

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