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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello Robo,



    Sorry. That is more than simply my opinion. It is fact. They report real stories. They are not fake. They are part of the "4th Estate," a vital part of our country, exercising the freedom of the press. Thus they are the friends of the people, checking up on our government, reporting back to We, The People. There is a huge difference between communist government news services and these free press establishments upholding the vital 1st Amendment rights.



    Mistaken stories are quite rare. They vet their stories in an effort to keep retractions to a minimum. This is the same press that existed before President Trump was elected. Think about it. If only one news source (Fox) was doing so well by bringing 'the real stories,' why would there not be more competition? If Fox has the highest viewership, and the others who are 'reporting fake news' are struggling for market share, why would they not change their format and begin competing with Fox for Presidential-supportive news? It makes no sense that only one news service would present 'the real news,' and all the others are fake, and hurting themselves by not competing directly with Fox.



    That's an exaggeration. I don't recall a single story of President Trump being convicted. We will all have a better understanding of the issues if we avoid exaggerations and stick to actual events that really occurred.



    Please present supporting evidence of a Trump conviction? (If you have it.)



    President Trump is a liar. He has a history of it from long before he ever took office.



    It would be helpful to get the facts straight. President Obama [It is disrespectful to use a derogatory term for his name) was mostly very honest. President Trump has been caught in thousands of lies.



    That's just whataboutism. It amounts to blocking out bad news about President Trump by substituting something bad about Democrats. Can you talk about President Trump without giving him a free pass by essentially saying if those other guys did something wrong that makes it OK for Trump to do it too? First of all, if you were not happy with it when the others did it, then you should not be making excuses for it when President Trump does it. You should be equally bothered by the same transgression no matter who commits it. Just because somebody else did something wrong does not make it OK for another person to do that wrong thing again. Wrong is still wrong.



    Ditto whataboutism.



    They are mainstream because they have the most reliable reputations for accuracy, and are the most popular news sources. That's why they are called main stream.



    News sources and the government are both powerful institutions, no doubt. We do need to trust them but we also need to verify they are doing their job properly. True power lies with We, The People. That is why an excellent public education system is so important. We need to teach our young how our government works and the importance of staying well informed and actively engaged in the political process.



    No, I meant what I said. If you want to say something else, that's all on you.
    I will eventually answer this leftist blitz of attempted distractions from the OP. as for the present, I'll simply remind y'all leftist that your attempted OFF TOPIC BLITZ is recognized since y'all have now nicely proven that you have no credible or honest answers for the OP. I thank y'all kindly!!!
    "Government is force by definition and corruption by nature. The bigger the government, the greater the force and the greater the corruption."

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello Robo,



    It is well protected already. We have a very robust border security team. They turned back the caravans, didn't they? I didn't hear any news that caravans had gotten through. Did you?



    And here I thought it was like what the dictionary says: "the customary beliefs, social forms, and material traits of a racial, religious, or social group also : the characteristic features of everyday existence (such as diversions or a way of life) shared by people in a place or time "

    Had you ever considered that undocumented immigrants actually work jobs, support themselves and pay taxes?

    Immigrants contribute to our economy. If you are invested in companies that sell them things then you are making money off immigrants.
    I will eventually answer this leftist blitz of attempted distractions from the OP. as for the present, I'll simply remind y'all leftist that your attempted OFF TOPIC BLITZ is recognized since y'all have now nicely proven that you have no credible or honest answers for the OP. I thank y'all kindly!!!
    "Government is force by definition and corruption by nature. The bigger the government, the greater the force and the greater the corruption."

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello Robo,



    You know we have a problem with insufficient revenue and insufficient pay-in to Social Security and Medicare. If we let more young workers into the country and they pay in on these things it not only addresses those shortfalls, but it also contributes to the economy and the GDP.



    You keep saying that but I don't believe it. If you were to show some supporting evidence of that I would think it is a problem.



    We need more judges because the backlog of people showing up for hearings has exceeded the capacity of the number of judges we currently have. Do you have any supporting evidence that asylum seekers are removing ankle bracelets?
    I will eventually answer this leftist blitz of attempted distractions from the OP. as for the present, I'll simply remind y'all leftist that your attempted OFF TOPIC BLITZ is recognized since y'all have now nicely proven that you have no credible or honest answers for the OP. I thank y'all kindly!!!
    "Government is force by definition and corruption by nature. The bigger the government, the greater the force and the greater the corruption."

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hi Robo,



    How do you know that 90% never show up for the hearings? If judges only had to hear 10% of the cases why are they so backlogged?



    There are records of criminal hearings and trials. The numbers have been on the decline for several years.
    I will eventually answer this leftist blitz of attempted distractions from the OP. as for the present, I'll simply remind y'all leftist that your attempted OFF TOPIC BLITZ is recognized since y'all have now nicely proven that you have no credible or honest answers for the OP. I thank y'all kindly!!!
    "Government is force by definition and corruption by nature. The bigger the government, the greater the force and the greater the corruption."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adolf_Twitler View Post
    Big Bend National Park is stretched out about 118 miles along the Texas/Mexico border. Along the river are canyons walls no one would ever try to climb!

    But, you ROBO genius are welcomed to try! LOL!

    I will eventually answer this leftist blitz of attempted distractions from the OP. as for the present, I'll simply remind y'all leftist that your attempted OFF TOPIC BLITZ is recognized since y'all have now nicely proven that you have no credible or honest answers for the OP. I thank y'all kindly!!!
    "Government is force by definition and corruption by nature. The bigger the government, the greater the force and the greater the corruption."

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmymccready View Post
    Robo loves his fake news.
    Still searching for answers for the OP huh Jimmy?????
    "Government is force by definition and corruption by nature. The bigger the government, the greater the force and the greater the corruption."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adolf_Twitler View Post
    .Let me just tell you that there is a natural border between the two countries where the rabbits wouldn't go, mountains, rock escarpments, rapid White Water River steep wall canyons, dangerous desert, hundreds of miles from nowhere on the Mexico side, and as much as 50 miles from the nearest road on the US side.
    And of course you’re gonna tell the class WHO is talking about putting barriers there, right???

    Since you have nary a single answer to the OP you’re hardly worthy of posting your pathetically feeble off topic attempts to disguise that fact to this thread, but it’s humorous!!! THANK YOU!!!!!
    "Government is force by definition and corruption by nature. The bigger the government, the greater the force and the greater the corruption."

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    Robo, explain to us why those technologies that were explained to you will not work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Again. if it is so easy and so common that people are walking through spots with open borders, why do they take the time, trouble and expense to dig tunnels?
    I don’t think the open areas is where they dig the tunnels, do you? I think the tunnels are few and far between and dug by drug dealers where there are walls and need those areas to do their transfer of goods, don’tyou?

    Why do they go through the ports of entry in massive numbers?
    Because it’s easier to hide their drugs and humans they’re smuggling in vehicles than it is to try to throw them over a bleeping WALL. That’s what the walls are for, to funnel the drugs and human smugglers to the ports of entry where they can catch them.

    They could just walk through the open borders that upset the rightys so badly.
    That’s exactly what they are doing. That’s why we need the walls!!!

    We have fencing where it is needed. Trump wants to put it where it is not needed.
    Did CNN or MSNBC tell you that? If it’s true, why have the bleeping crooked, Trump hating Democrats voted for more walls, that were never constructed during both the Bush and Obama administrations?

    He wants to do that because he lied about people using those areas and he demonized brown people as rapists and murderers. He lies about the crime in ElPaso and whether the fence did anything about it. The rights have no sales resistence. If Trump says it ,they buy it.
    For your information friend, even the Democrats have conceded that there are areas where walls are needed. If they haven’t then they can’t explain why they voted for them in the past and now they’re simply using the preposterous excuse that NOW they think that technologies are a better way to go. But like you they can’t explain how. And you and I both know this isn’t about protecting the border and the American folks, it’s very, very simply about HATE TRUMP, STOP TRUMP!!!!!
    "Government is force by definition and corruption by nature. The bigger the government, the greater the force and the greater the corruption."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robo View Post
    What was Obummer's 8 year GDP Jim?
    Obummer ?" And you lie and claim you are not a Rep or a Dem? Bullshit, you are a far righty who thinks a reality show host is qualified to run the country. Trump is about to declare an emergency over a totally unneeded wall. There is wall and fencing everywhere it is required. The Dems are offering technology and personell upgrades in the ports of entry where it is really required or will do some good.
    A border guard today was asked if he tired chasing Latinos. He said they walk right up to him and ask where they go for asylum.
    But again, if the lack of a fence is making it easy for drugs and illegals to come in, why are they building tunnels? That is a lot of damn work and expense. Why would they bother if they can just waltz over through the huge unprotected places where there is no wall?
    President Obama saved the country from the second great depression and put the economy on solid footing. You must have been around in 2007-8. Do you not remember it? Bush had us shedding 800,000 jobs a month. That is what greeted "obummer" . This analysis thing seems pretty tough for you,.
    Do you think all those illegals Trump has been hiring for decades came in through the desert openings?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    That is not where the drugs and illegals come through. Well, at least the huge majority. If you want to deal with the problems, don't you think it is wise to deal with them where they are? The areas where the borders are crossed by iguanas and jackrabbits are not where to focus.
    Truth is neither is the ports on entry. Fact is Americas appetite for drugs will be served by somebody. Call drug addiction a medical condition and deal with it. Demand will be filled. We have taken out lots of drug cartels and you can still buy drugs at most street corners in America. Stop the demand.
    What's the evidence for your assertion? Can you cite it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tinfoil View Post
    What's the evidence for your assertion? Can you cite it?
    Sure, I guess you are too lazy to look things up. According to US Customs and Border Protection stats, 90 percent of heroin, 88 percent of Cocaine, 80 percent of Fentanyl in first 1 months of 2018 were seized at legal crossing points.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vasquezrocks View Post
    You should change your name to Moronberg .....
    Such children you rightys are. According to US Customs and Border stats, 90 percent of heroin ,88 perent of cocaine and 80 percent of fenteanyl seized was at legal border crossings. It is just facts that you guys hate. I feel sorry for you guys having to go throgh life in a fantasy bubble ignoring facts . And of course, denying them when they are given to you. The wall is a waste of money desigend to keep Trump's followers who proceed without information, in line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Sure, I guess you are too lazy to look things up. According to US Customs and Border Protection stats, 90 percent of heroin, 88 percent of Cocaine, 80 percent of Fentanyl in first 1 months of 2018 were seized at legal crossing points.
    And where was the rest seized?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello Robo,
    You know we have a problem with insufficient revenue and insufficient pay-in to Social Security and Medicare.

    If we let more young workers into the country and they pay in on these things it not only addresses those shortfalls, but it also contributes to the economy and the GDP.
    Shocking to see a leftist admit that their unconstitutional federal programs are going broke. Actually there’s no authority in the Constitution for the feds to even operate such programs.

    However, a better case can be made for having “LEGAL” immigrants come into the country to pick up the slack you identify, especially if Trump’s kind of immigration system were implemented whereby folks with skills and education are at the top of the list.

    As far as the “young people” your identifying goes, it mystifies me that young people come to America seeking asylum just because their country is a shit hole of corrupt government and poverty. I’d have way more respect for those folks and be more willing to help them out if they’d stay home and revolt against such government and clean out the corrupt politicians and build a new country. There’s a limit to how many immigrants America can handle and we sure as hell can’t incorporate all of the poo folk of South America.
    "Government is force by definition and corruption by nature. The bigger the government, the greater the force and the greater the corruption."

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