I'm confused!

[jimmymccready]

Politaker and Nordberg tag team Robo and stomp him!!!

The tech has been discussed with Robo, but he not unusual, for like many of the alt right, he forgets things that he does not like very easily. He forgets so easily. Bigly easily.

[Robo]

Hello Robo,



Get OUTTA here! You think most of the refugees seeking asylum on our southern border have a reasonable expectation to be allowed in as legal immigrants if they only apply for citizenship? The numbers don't add up. We only allow 30,000 legal immigrants per year into the USA.

How are we ever to know that one way or the other since illegals that make it across the border seeking asylum get released into the American population after they get a date to appear in court for their “Asylum” hearing and 90% of them never show up? Apparently the 30,000 are in addition to the thousands that never show up for their hearings, huh?

Then they must have turned over a new leaf. Crime rates have been falling.

How does anybody even know what the “true” crime rate is? Are they counting “illegal entry” into the United States as “crime?” How do they know how many got across the border undetected, if they weren’t detected? How do they know how many of them were smuggling humans and or drugs if they were never detected? Listed crime rates are just estimates derived by only god knows how and by who!!!

[Robo]

Hello Robo,! Let's just get the facts straight here, because I don't believe what you've said is accurate. Those judges are following the law. That is their job. You have absolutely no evidence those decisions are politically motivated. That's fake news. Propaganda. You should not believe that. It is not verified information. It's baloney. If you've got anything credible that backs up what you say, now would be the time to present it. Otherwise, I completely disagree with your understanding of the situation.

You friend can disagree with whatever you like and I’m sure you will. Whether the judges are following the written law, or whether the judges are “making” the law, the law they’re promoting and having enforced is where the BOLOGNA IS!! People cross our border without permission and we may only hold them for a judges determined amount of days, and then the judge says we have to release them into America’s population without reservation. If that’s the written law, it sucks! It’s stupid and we might as well not have any border or any authority to have any control over it at all, exactly what y’all leftist promote and love.

You know, it's hard to really believe you are correct when you realize your position is based on baloney. Also, I understand they use ankle bracelets to monitor the location of asylum seekers and to ensure that they appear for their hearing. The Democratic proposal includes funding for more judges to be able to speed up process times.

90% of asylum seekers never appear for their asylum hearing. Border patrol agents say they remove ankle bracelets and disappear into the American population. If they’re keeping their ankle bracelets on and appearing for their hearings, and our border isn’t overflowing with immigrants and there’s no emergency why do we need more judges and fewer beds for them?

[Robo]

Hello Robo, If you mean you don't like that the fastest growing demographic in the USA is Hispanic then I disagree.

Disagree as you will friend! I don’t care what the fastest growing demographic is! I only care that our border is unprotected!!!

Wait a minute. What is 'American culture?' To be accurate, that includes a LOT of very different cultures. And the way I see it, that diversity makes America great. Immigrants, legal and illegal, have a history of working hard at low-paying jobs and assimilating well into the USA. The ones who have struggled to fully assimilate are descendant from slaves brought here by force. People who never wanted to come here in the first place.

“American culture” IS assimilation into American society, self reliance, personal responsibility, the American Dream, the English language, learning our Constitution, applying legally for citizenship, believing in the Bill Of Rights and promoting equal rights for all citizens and legal guest. And not ever crossing our borders illegally, being a drug runner, being a human smuggler, belonging to a gang like MS13 or being an Islamic terrorist or any kind of criminal. And if you here illegally, you’re a criminal!!!

[Robo]

OK, first of all, the bias of those networks is well known, and they are not the same. CNN is middle and MSNBC is left. They are not the enemy of the people.

That’s only your opinion friend! My opinion differs. ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, and CNN are all propaganda machenes for the progressive left. Whenever they spew fake news, “THEY ARE THE ENEMY OF THE PEOPLE” No different than the news media in the old Soviet Union, China, North Korea and Cuba.

The reason Trump calls them that is because they present the truth that shatters his propaganda.

You do mean those multiple “truths” that they have to RETRACT, because they’re exposed as FAKE NEWS, don’t you? They’ve convicted Trump of sooooo many crimes for “COLLUSION” with the “RUSSIANS” sooo many times I’ve lost count. Every move Mueller makes is a Trump conviction that they salivate over for days until it’s exposed as just another embarrassment for loony leftist horseshit reporting.

He wants to present 'alternative facts' which are different from actual facts. President Trump lies.

Trump is a first class narcissistic bullshitter and exaggerator!!! That’s only different from Obummer and most other Presidents because of his classical disregard for political correctness and the fact he’s a rookie at Washington politics. He doesn’t do or want to know how to put on the “I’m honest” face and lie and exaggerate with sugar dripping from phony lips like the pros like Obummer do.

Nobody could expect the free media to go along with a leader who lies.

Unless they’re lying ass Democrats like Obummer and the Clintons, huh?

The lies have been verified and numerous.

DITTO for Obama and the Clintons!!!

These are reliable main stream news sources.

There’s no such thing as “reliable main stream news sources”!!!!” News sources like government are power by definition and corruption and bias by nature!!!

Neither has a reputation of presenting false information. And if they ever do make a mistake they always issue retractions.

You mean when their bleeping lies are exposed, they sometimes print a retraction on the back page along with some flimsy excuse!!!!!

[Robo]

I don't get information from the DNC. That is a political party's leadership. To the point, if you had looked at the link I posted you would have learned that it was ABC news, and you would also find that the report is correct, those are President Trump's exact words, right out of the SOTU speech. Those words were the opposite of what he did. He said he supports "more legal immigration than ever," yet he has Executive Ordered that the levels be cut back. That's lying. There's no fake news about it. Said one thing, did the opposite. Lying. Cut and dried. He lied. It's troubling that his followers never call him on this and many lies, and that they ignore all of it and continue to support him. I think it is a stupid mistake.

I don’t see that as a lie! I know what Trump has said before, because I actually listen to Trump and mostly ignore the lying ass media’s twisting of what Trump actually says. The media either doesn’t understand what Trump is saying often, or the media omits parts of what Trump says for the media’s own biased purposes.

What Trump has actually said is that the insane and insulting immigration system’s LOTTERY legalization immigration system is a pathetic embarrassing, stupid and shameful disgrace for the nation, and I agree!!! Trump also opposes the “family first” immigration system as not a fair or logical system. Trump has proposed that the majority of new “LEGAL” immigrants coming to America should be vetted as to their talents, abilities and education And abilities to come here and be self supporting and be a viable contributor to America’s society, economy and traditional culture. Again, I agree! Those should be the majority legally coming to America and they should be advanced to the head of the line and only the remaining allowance be given to a lesser qualified people. So, you see friend, Trump DOES want more people to come to America, he simply wants the Untired, the Unpoor and the folks pineing to be free and who want to contribute to America as well. And by the way friend, the inscription on the statue of liberty was written by a bleeping socialist.

[Robo]

And on that we are very much alike. Like on so many issues, we agree on the logical action to be taken in response to the given facts; we simply disagree on the facts. It makes all kinds of sense to me that you would believe the things you do if your facts were indeed true. I just don't think they are.

As I’ve said friend, believe as you will! I’m neither Democrat or Republican, neither Leftist or Rightist. I’m simply a Bill Of Rights originalist constitutionalist. That makes me a classical traditionalist liberal and classical traditionalist conservative, because the two are constitutionally synonymous. I promote the Bill Of Rights Separated powers of State and Federal Government and the limits to both and the true constitutional authorities of each, as mandated by amendment 10.

What I think the basic facts are is very different from your understanding. I believe it when I hear that illegal immigration is actually at a historical low. I don't think there is a crisis at the border, no emergency. I hope President Trump will not cry wolf just so he can do more needless government spending. The sky is definitely not falling.

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The very reason we’re having this conversation friend is because we see issues differently.

I never believe what media and or the government say. I search for a hint of logic or truth in what they say. Again, how does anybody know what the illegal immigration rate truly is when we both know there are “UNDETECTED” people coming across the border? How do they count what they can’t detect?

According to what I’ve seen with my own eyes in video I’d say there is a crisis of huge flows of immigrants flooding our southern border. So many that they can’t be processed in any rational or respectful numbers. Several are known criminals, (MS13 tattoos) and throwing rocks and bottles at the border patrol, some known to have sexually abused children and abducted children to claim as family members to increase their ability to get into America, and more on the way, incentivized by the fact that America has no rational immigration laws and by that fact America actually has open borders to be breached without being vetted. That friend in times of terrorism is a “crisis” in my opinion. And The President needs to declare an emergency and finance any and all protections at the border necessary until the Congress can pass logical and sane immigration policy.

I also must say friend, I find it comical that a leftist is worried about government spending. Why do I suspect that if Democrats wanted to spend billions more to handout more and more taxpayer’s loot for housing, food, medical care and education for illegals, you’d be all in for that, and expecting their Democrat vote too, huh?

[Robo]

Politaker and Nordberg tag team Robo and stomp him!!!

The tech has been discussed with Robo, but he not unusual, for like many of the alt right, he forgets things that he does not like very easily. He forgets so easily. Bigly easily.

Funny fellow!!!!!

[Robo]

I don't think immigrants working jobs here are making it too hard to find work. Unemployment is low, even with all the millions of immigrants already here. I think this whole notion that immigration is a big problem is all whipped up by Trump as a rallying cry to the gullible types who believe the propaganda. Hatred is a great motivator.

We agree! “Hatred is a great motivator.” In all of my 82 years, I’ve never seen such hatred for any American President. And most of it without any credible reason.

Almost 4 million jobs created since election.
More Americans are now employed than ever recorded before in our history.
Created more than 400,000 manufacturing jobs since election.
Manufacturing jobs growing at the fastest rate in more than THREE DECADES.
Economic growth last quarter hit 4.2 percent.
New unemployment claims recently hit a 49-year low.
Median household income has hit highest level ever recorded.
African-American unemployment has recently achieved the lowest rate ever recorded.
Hispanic-American unemployment is at the lowest rate ever recorded.
Asian-American unemployment recently achieved the lowest rate ever recorded.
Women’s unemployment recently reached the lowest rate in 65 years.
Youth unemployment has recently hit the lowest rate in nearly half a century.
Lowest unemployment rate ever recorded for Americans without a high school diploma.
, veterans’ unemployment recently reached its lowest rate in nearly 20 years.

Almost 3.9 million Americans have been lifted off food stamps since the election.
The Pledge to America’s Workers has resulted in employers committing to train more than 4 million Americans.
95 percent of U.S. manufacturers are optimistic about the future—the highest ever.

Signed the biggest package of tax cuts and reforms in history. After tax cuts, over $300 billion poured back in to the U.S. in the first quarter alone.
As a result of tax bill, small businesses will have the lowest top marginal tax rate in more than 80 years.

Opened ANWR and approved Keystone XL and Dakota Access Pipelines.
Record number of regulations eliminated.
Enacted regulatory relief for community banks and credit unions.

Obamacare individual mandate penalty GONE.
more affordable healthcare options for Americans through association health plans and short-term duration plans.


Expanded VA telehealth services, walk-in-clinics, and same-day urgent primary and mental health care.

Increased our coal exports by 60 percent; U.S. oil production recently reached all-time high.
United States is a net natural gas exporter for the first time since 1957.

Withdrew the United States from the job-killing Paris Climate Accord.
Cancelled the illegal, anti-coal, so-called Clean Power Plan.

Confirmed more circuit court judges than any other new administration.
Confirmed Supreme Court Justice Neil Gorsuch and nominated Judge Brett Kavanaugh.
Withdrew from the horrible, one-sided Iran Deal.

Moved U.S. Embassy to Jerusalem.
Protecting Americans from terrorists with the Travel Ban, upheld by Supreme Court.

Issued Executive Order to keep open Guantanamo Bay.


Improved vetting and screening for refugees, and switched focus to overseas resettlement.
We have begun BUILDING THE WALL

And the left hates him for all of those accomplishments for America, it’s shameful, hyper biased and partisan and just plain STUPID!!!

[jimmymccready]

Yet Trump hovers between 40-43% despite all the Obama Recovery effects.

Why is that?

[jimmymccready]

Created more than 400,000 manufacturing jobs since election. While losing 900,000.

Fourth quarter growth is about 2.3%. Robo may be mistakenly (?) quoting Phillipines gdp growth.

[Robo]

Yet Trump hovers between 40-43% despite all the Obama Recovery effects.

Why is that?

Still no ability to describe ya'all democrats announced technologies I see, huh Jimmy??? I understand Jim!!!

[Robo]

Created more than 400,000 manufacturing jobs since election. While losing 900,000.

Fourth quarter growth is about 2.3%. Robo may be mistakenly (?) quoting Phillipines gdp growth.

What was Obummer's 8 year GDP Jim?

[Robo]

Here ya go Jimmy,

Barack Obama Is Now The Only President In History To Never ...
www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-27/barack-obama...
Not only is the average annual growth rate of just 1.48% during Obama's business cycle the weakest of any expansion since at least 1949, he has just become the only President to have not had even one year of 3% GDP growth. https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-...r-3-gdp-growth
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SIMPLY THE WORST=> Obama is First President Ever to Not See ...
www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/04/simply-worst...
Barack Obama will be lucky to average a 1.55% GDP growth rate. This ranks Obama as the fourth worst presidency on record. Barack Obama will be the only U.S. president in history who did not deliver a single year of 3.0% + economic growth. https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201...le-year-3-gdp/

[Nordberg]

I don’t see that as a lie! I know what Trump has said before, because I actually listen to Trump and mostly ignore the lying ass media’s twisting of what Trump actually says. The media either doesn’t understand what Trump is saying often, or the media omits parts of what Trump says for the media’s own biased purposes.

What Trump has actually said is that the insane and insulting immigration system’s LOTTERY legalization immigration system is a pathetic embarrassing, stupid and shameful disgrace for the nation, and I agree!!! Trump also opposes the “family first” immigration system as not a fair or logical system. Trump has proposed that the majority of new “LEGAL” immigrants coming to America should be vetted as to their talents, abilities and education And abilities to come here and be self supporting and be a viable contributor to America’s society, economy and traditional culture. Again, I agree! Those should be the majority legally coming to America and they should be advanced to the head of the line and only the remaining allowance be given to a lesser qualified people. So, you see friend, Trump DOES want more people to come to America, he simply wants the Untired, the Unpoor and the folks pineing to be free and who want to contribute to America as well. And by the way friend, the inscription on the statue of liberty was written by a bleeping socialist.

Of course confused about the lottery system too. That is because you are getting it from fake news, Fox, Breitbart, Infowars and other biased right wing sites. Then you do no homework, so you think you are getting facts. The lotto system was designed to allow people from countries that are not the normal ones that send peole here. In order to qualify for the lotto, you have to have skills , talents ,education or resources that make you self sustaining. It is not the poor and disadvantaged that make the list.