Hello Robo,
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Robo
I know no such thing!!![most of the refugees seeking asylum on our southern border would never be allowed in as legal immigrants.]
Get OUTTA here! You think most of the refugees seeking asylum on our southern border have a reasonable expectation to be allowed in as legal immigrants if they only apply for citizenship? The numbers don't add up. We only allow 30,000 legal immigrants per year into the USA.
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Robo
You know that’s a lie because?
He already did the opposite of what he said, as I show below.
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Robo
Having to super vet immigrants in a world full of terrorist and MS13 gang members and other criminals, it seems perfectly logical that a vetting service would be overwhelmed with more than 30,000. I’d say I suspect that Obummer’s 110,000 likely allowed in criminals and likely terrorist.
Then they must have turned over a new leaf. Crime rates have been falling.
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Robo
A correct decision by the court!
When Trump announced his Muslim Ban, he said: "Until we can figure out what the hell is going on." Is there any indication that he is really trying to do that? Or was that part another lie.
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Robo
Rightfully so!! Leftist judges in the courts have ordered that immigrants seeking asylum must be released into America’s population after a limited number of days if their applications haven’t been processed. They get a court date to appear and never do, they just disappear into America’s vast population. You may be OK with that, I’m not!!!
Let's just get the facts straight here, because I don't believe what you've said is accurate. Those judges are following the law. That is their job. You have absolutely no evidence those decisions are politically motivated. That's fake news. Propaganda. You should not believe that. It is not verified information. It's baloney. If you've got anything credible that backs up what you say, now would be the time to present it. Otherwise, I completely disagree with your understanding of the situation.
You know, it's hard to really believe you are correct when you realize your position is based on baloney. Also, I understand they use ankle bracelets to monitor the location of asylum seekers and to ensure that they appear for their hearing. The Democratic proposal includes funding for more judges to be able to speed up process times.
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Robo
I don’t support an immigration system that tribalizes immigrants by race.
What's THAT?
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Robo
I see that as racism!!!
If you mean you don't like that the fastest growing demographic in the USA is Hispanic then I disagree.
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Robo
I support an immigration system that accepts immigrants by their value to the United States Of America, their willingness to assimilate into American society accept America’s traditions, culture and the English language and become good and productive self supporting citizens.
Wait a minute. What is 'American culture?' To be accurate, that includes a LOT of very different cultures. And the way I see it, that diversity makes America great. Immigrants, legal and illegal, have a history of working hard at low-paying jobs and assimilating well into the USA. The ones who have struggled to fully assimilate are descendant from slaves brought here by force. People who never wanted to come here in the first place.
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Robo
And you know that’s a lie because CNN and MSNBC and the DNC told you so, right?
OK, first of all, the bias of those networks is well known, and they are not the same. CNN is middle and MSNBC is left. They are not the enemy of the people. The reason Trump calls them that is because they present the truth that shatters his propaganda. He wants to present 'alternative facts' which are different from actual facts. President Trump lies. Nobody could expect the free media to go along with a leader who lies. The lies have been verified and numerous. These are reliable main stream news sources. Neither has a reputation of presenting false information. And if they ever do make a mistake they always issue retractions.
I don't get information from the DNC. That is a political party's leadership. To the point, if you had looked at the link I posted you would have learned that it was ABC news, and you would also find that the report is correct, those are President Trump's exact words, right out of the SOTU speech. Those words were the opposite of what he did. He said he supports "more legal immigration than ever," yet he has Executive Ordered that the levels be cut back. That's lying. There's no fake news about it. Said one thing, did the opposite. Lying. Cut and dried. He lied. It's troubling that his followers never call him on this and many lies, and that they ignore all of it and continue to support him. I think it is a stupid mistake.
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Robo
Then petition the Congress to reform the immigration system!!! It sucks and neither duopoly party want’s to reform it. Both have had chances to fix it and neither even tried!!!
I don't know for a fact but I suspect that Congressional attempts to fix immigration have indeed been attempted, probably by both parties, but they can't agree on what needs to be done.
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Robo
Reinspect my answers to the rest of you questions and you’ll have your answers, I never hide anything. I’m an honest person and I say what I believe and I believe what I believe with reason!!!
And on that we are very much alike. Like on so many issues, we agree on the logical action to be taken in response to the given facts; we simply disagree on the facts. It makes all kinds of sense to me that you would believe the things you do if your facts were indeed true. I just don't think they are. What I think the basic facts are is very different from your understanding. I believe it when I hear that illegal immigration is actually at a historical low. I don't think there is a crisis at the border, no emergency. I hope President Trump will not cry wolf just so he can do more needless government spending. The sky is definitely not falling.
I think we are doing an effective job of keeping them out. I don't believe the ones that do slip in are bringing more crime and drugs. That doesn't make any sense that people would risk their lives to trek through the desert and haul drugs for profit. El Chapo was just found guilty. We learned his methods. He did not use immigrants trekking through the desert. Those people don't want to carry anything more than they need to survive. Just carrying enough water is a huge burden.
I don't think immigrants working jobs here are making it too hard to find work. Unemployment is low, even with all the millions of immigrants already here. I think this whole notion that immigration is a big problem is all whipped up by Trump as a rallying cry to the gullible types who believe the propaganda. Hatred is a great motivator. It has worked for demagogues before. You know what a demagogue is, right? That's Trump. He fits the definition. It's all a big distraction so people won't focus in the Russia investigation, which he is also lying about. He needs to be investigated to the bone and let the investigations focus on money and money laundering. How does a guy with no credit in the USA go and get millions in Russian money and it's all legit? Makes zero sense. The whole hatred of immigrants thing is a smoke screen. He hired immigrants, married one, brought her family in. He is USING his followers. He doesn't care about people. He USES people. Just like the contractors he stiffed and the Trump University customers who got swindled. SMOKE SCREEN.
I believe immigrants contribute to the economy, not hurt it.
I believe illegal immigrants just want to work at anything they can find. They take the dirty jobs, the grunt jobs. Picking sweet potatoes. Digging them, actually. Fun stuff like that. Criminals are not willing to do that kind of work. Immigrants just want to stay out of trouble. They don't go to the government applying for assistance. They don't want the government to even know they exist. The use less government assistance than American Citizens do and they commit fewer crimes per capita than American citizens do. Those are verifiable facts. Those facts do not support your view. You can't explain why. So I don't believe you. I believe the facts. I know you have your own reasons for believing what you do 'leftist judges' (with no evidence of this claim) and you really believe it. Like I said. We simply disagree on what the basic facts are. Those judges are following the law and you don't even know their party affiliation.
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