I'm confused!

[Robo]

Why do I keep hearing Democrats claiming that they’re not against a wall on our border, but they just think there’s better technologies than a wall to discourage and or prevent illegal immigration, but they never describe those technologies and how they’d work better than a wall. Are they talking about drones with Gatling guns on em, or rockets? Or maybe lasers that somehow freeze people in place? Or maybe they’re talking about junkyard dogs trained to roam the border, (and trained to not eat poison meat), huh? Help me understand the Democrats!

[Nordberg]

yes you are confused and lack knowledge. We all agree on that. They use RPM, which checks for radioactive isotopes. They use Busters, which check for densities through the car that would show drug packages inside fenders and added compartments. They photograph license plates and run them through criminal data bases. They use drug shniffing dogs.
There is more technology being prepared ,but millions of cars are going back and forth through the border crossings. Cannot scan thm all.

[Robo]

yes you are confused and lack knowledge. We all agree on that. They use RPM, which checks for radioactive isotopes. They use Busters, which check for densities through the car that would show drug packages inside fenders and added compartments. They photograph license plates and run them through criminal data bases. They use drug shniffing dogs.
There is more technology being prepared ,but millions of cars are going back and forth through the border crossings. Cannot scan thm all.

What about where there are no cars and roads and people just walk across the border? What's the Democrat plan for those places?

[Nordberg]

What about where there are no cars and roads and people just walk across the border? What's the Democrat plan for those places?

That is not where the drugs and illegals come through. Well, at least the huge majority. If you want to deal with the problems, don't you think it is wise to deal with them where they are? The areas where the borders are crossed by iguanas and jackrabbits are not where to focus.
Truth is neither is the ports on entry. Fact is Americas appetite for drugs will be served by somebody. Call drug addiction a medical condition and deal with it. Demand will be filled. We have taken out lots of drug cartels and you can still buy drugs at most street corners in America. Stop the demand.

[Robo]

That is not where the drugs and illegals come through. Well, at least the huge majority.

And you know that for a fact, right? Why wouldn’t they come through where there are no barriers as opposed to where there are barriers? Your claim doesn’t even make any sense!

If you want to deal with the problems, don't you think it is wise to deal with them where they are? The areas where the borders are crossed by iguanas and jackrabbits are not where to focus.

Oh! But in my opinion that’s exactly where to focus! If I wanted to cross the border in any direction illegally, that’s the first places I’d consider. I think that’s what is “WISE!”

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I’m no supporter of Nixon’s idiot drug war. It’s not even constitutional to begin with. It only makes huge tax free profits for criminals and even terrorist. It corrupts law enforcement and politicians immigrants that come legally, and wait their turn. It’s the fact that the illegals never get vetted for skills and politicians and even judges. It causes violence in our streets. It clutters up our judicial and penal systems. It jails non violent addicts. And cost taxpayers billions for a sad failed stupid institution. Drugs should be legal, regulated and safe, licensed and taxed.


It’s not just the drug cartels at the border, it’s the human trafficking and MS13 and other criminals coming across and people with phony asylum claims forcing themselves into the country ahead of the legal immigrants that wait their turn. It’s the fact that illegals never get vetted for skills and diseases.

[Nordberg]

And you know that for a fact, right? Why wouldn’t they come through where there are no barriers as opposed to where there are barriers? Your claim doesn’t even make any sense!



Oh! But in my opinion that’s exactly where to focus! If I wanted to cross the border in any direction illegally, that’s the first places I’d consider. I think that’s what is “WISE!”




I’m no supporter of Nixon’s idiot drug war. It’s not even constitutional to begin with. It only makes huge tax free profits for criminals and even terrorist. It corrupts law enforcement and politicians immigrants that come legally, and wait their turn. It’s the fact that the illegals never get vetted for skills and politicians and even judges. It causes violence in our streets. It clutters up our judicial and penal systems. It jails non violent addicts. And cost taxpayers billions for a sad failed stupid institution. Drugs should be legal, regulated and safe, licensed and taxed.


It’s not just the drug cartels at the border, it’s the human trafficking and MS13 and other criminals coming across and people with phony asylum claims forcing themselves into the country ahead of the legal immigrants that wait their turn. It’s the fact that illegals never get vetted for skills and diseases.

Yes, deeply and badly confused. Like El Chapo said in his trial.In the quantities they deal with, they use trucks, cars through the border crossings. They use submarines. They use airplanes. They use boats. They use tunnels.Not some waif carrying a pocket full of drugs through the desert will not do them any good. Do you really not understand that?
Danmn, you buy it all and still cannot question what they tll you. Human trafficking is not done by walking many miles through a desert. No gang banger is going to walk through a dangrous desert when he can drive through a port of entry in a car. Do you ever question what rush tells you? Do you ever ask yourself if it makes sense? Ever? because it doesn't.

[PoliTalker]

Hello Robo,

I would just like to comment about one little thing you said, if I might:

... immigrants that come legally, and wait their turn.

That's a cop out term. You know darn well that most of the refugees seeking asylum on our southern border would never be allowed in as legal immigrants.

President Trump has said the same thing. That if people want to emigrate here that they should do it legally. And he has also said that he wants more legal immigrants than ever before to do so. And that was a lie:

"Trump: “I want people to come into our country in the largest numbers ever, but they have to come in legally.”

"Last fall Trump set the lowest cap in the history of the refugee admission program -- permitting just 30,000 a year. In former President Barack Obama's last year in office he proposed a cap of 110,000 amid the height of the crisis in Syria. In fiscal year 2017, the Trump administration allowed the second fewest refugees ever.

Trump also won a battle in the Supreme Court to restrict all forms of travel and immigration from seven countries, five of which have Muslim majority populations. Just last week, the administration began selectively enforcing a new policy at the southern border that requires migrants seeking asylum to wait in Mexico while their applications are processed. He has also called for the elimination of the diversity visa program, which typically awards up to 50,000 immigration visas each year. "

Source

Which Trump do you support?

The one that lies and says they should come in legally?

Or the one doing his best to just keep as many as possible OUT.

(I think we know the answer)

You're good with the 30K, right?

And you're good with telling people to apply for legal immigration, but knowing it is a waste of their time. Most of them could get in line and start waiting; and they would die before 'waiting for their turn' was complete. Most of them, really, will never GET A TURN.

That's what you really want, isn't it?

And if so, why not simply be honest about it and own up to it?

Why pretend that there is some other 'legal option' for them when there really is not?

[Vasquezrocks]

That is not where the drugs and illegals come through. Well, at least the huge majority. If you want to deal with the problems, don't you think it is wise to deal with them where they are? The areas where the borders are crossed by iguanas and jackrabbits are not where to focus.
Truth is neither is the ports on entry. Fact is Americas appetite for drugs will be served by somebody. Call drug addiction a medical condition and deal with it. Demand will be filled. We have taken out lots of drug cartels and you can still buy drugs at most street corners in America. Stop the demand.

You should change your name to Moronberg .....

[Nordberg]

You should change your name to Moronberg .....

Such children you rightys are. According to US Customs and Border stats, 90 percent of heroin ,88 perent of cocaine and 80 percent of fenteanyl seized was at legal border crossings. It is just facts that you guys hate. I feel sorry for you guys having to go throgh life in a fantasy bubble ignoring facts . And of course, denying them when they are given to you. The wall is a waste of money desigend to keep Trump's followers who proceed without information, in line.

[USFREEDOM911]

That is not where the drugs and illegals come through. Well, at least the huge majority. If you want to deal with the problems, don't you think it is wise to deal with them where they are? The areas where the borders are crossed by iguanas and jackrabbits are not where to focus.
Truth is neither is the ports on entry. Fact is Americas appetite for drugs will be served by somebody. Call drug addiction a medical condition and deal with it. Demand will be filled. We have taken out lots of drug cartels and you can still buy drugs at most street corners in America. Stop the demand.

So you finally got off your "ALL" lie about the ports of entry.

So what's wrong with stopping it all together, so ALL do have to come through ports of entry?

[tinfoil]

That is not where the drugs and illegals come through. Well, at least the huge majority. If you want to deal with the problems, don't you think it is wise to deal with them where they are? The areas where the borders are crossed by iguanas and jackrabbits are not where to focus.
Truth is neither is the ports on entry. Fact is Americas appetite for drugs will be served by somebody. Call drug addiction a medical condition and deal with it. Demand will be filled. We have taken out lots of drug cartels and you can still buy drugs at most street corners in America. Stop the demand.

What's the evidence for your assertion? Can you cite it?

[Nordberg]

What's the evidence for your assertion? Can you cite it?

Sure, I guess you are too lazy to look things up. According to US Customs and Border Protection stats, 90 percent of heroin, 88 percent of Cocaine, 80 percent of Fentanyl in first 1 months of 2018 were seized at legal crossing points.

[Tkaffen]

Nordick,
Do you live in a fantasy world. Drug addiction is not a new problem. You will never stop the demand. Calling it a liberal medical condition will not stop the demand either.
The best you can do is to try and stop the supply.

[Adolf_Twitler]

What about where there are no cars and roads and people just walk across the border? What's the Democrat plan for those places?

If you are so "confused" and so concerned, and you are making this your business to know, perhaps it's time for you to get your fat ass up and go and see for yourself WTF is going on down there. Instead of trying to make your own assessment about what is still needed on the Border and what is not.

Let me just tell you that there is a natural border between the two countries where the rabbits wouldn't go, mountains, rock escarpments, rapid White Water River steep wall canyons, dangerous desert, hundreds of miles from nowhere on the Mexico side, and as much as 50 miles from the nearest road on the US side.

You're always welcome to go and hike the desert from the nearest road in America to the nearest road in Mexico by foot and let us know how that worked out for you!

[MAGA MAN]

yes you are confused and lack knowledge. We all agree on that. They use RPM, which checks for radioactive isotopes. They use Busters, which check for densities through the car that would show drug packages inside fenders and added compartments. They photograph license plates and run them through criminal data bases. They use drug shniffing dogs.
There is more technology being prepared ,but millions of cars are going back and forth through the border crossings. Cannot scan thm all.

Sounds to me that all these technologies require funneling the trespassers through central points. By using barriers, perhaps?