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    Default Trump vows to ‘MOVE FORWARD’ with wall ‘with or without’ Democrat support

    Sheer insanity, the shutdown has cost more than the amount being askef for in the first place. So that puts paid to any arsehole on here complaining about the cost.

    PRESIDENT Donald Trump has vowed to plough on with his controversial border wall regardless of Democrat support after he signed a stop-gap funding bill, ending the longest government shutdown in US history after 34 days and 21 hours.

    Trump wanted $5.7billion (£3.8billion) to fund the contentious campaign pledge - but the shutdown itself has already racked up a huge $6billion (£4.5billion) bill, according to S&P Global Ratings estimates.
    https://www.express.co.uk/news/world...nment-shutdown

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    Maybe Trump will give Citizenship to Dreamers for some Wall money?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    Maybe Trump will give Citizenship to Dreamers for some Wall money?
    No

    He doesn’t even need to declare a National Emergency to get funds for the wall

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    Maybe Trump will give Citizenship to Dreamers for some Wall money?
    One thing is for sure, he's not going to let the matter rest. Anybody that knows him will tell you that.
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    doesn't sound like a cave to me


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    Maybe Trump will give Citizenship to Dreamers for some Wall money?
    Will democrats yield on the wall for anything, though?

    Nancy and Chuck’s ‘good-faith’ bargaining is similar to Arafat’s when he rejected the 2000 peace proposal. Because Arafat didn’t really want peace.

    In other words, do democrats care more about Dreamers or humiliating Trump?

    I think the answer is pretty apparent.
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    I don't see where there is any choice anymore.without fences we simply cannot control the border.
    Which is a national emergency
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Beto Omar View Post
    Will democrats yield on the wall for anything, though?

    Nancy and Chuck’s ‘good-faith’ bargaining is similar to Arafat’s when he rejected the 2000 peace proposal. Because Arafat didn’t really want peace.

    In other words, do democrats care more about Dreamers or humiliating Trump?

    I think the answer is pretty apparent.
    I guess we will find out in the next three weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    I guess we will find out in the next three weeks.
    Indeed.

    Democrats won’t be able to hide behind ‘Trump owns the shutdown’ this time around: they said they would negotiate on the wall. I’ll believe that when I see it happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Beto Omar View Post
    Indeed.

    Democrats won’t be able to hide behind ‘Trump owns the shutdown’ this time around: they said they would negotiate on the wall. I’ll believe that when I see it happen.
    You good with money for the Wall in exchange for Citizenship for the Dreamers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by noise View Post
    I don't see where there is any choice anymore.without fences we simply cannot control the border.
    Which is a national emergency
    You’re making too much sense lol.

    Controlling the border is one of the first orders of business for any sane country. I’m beginning to question whether ours is sane or not. But right about here, some wag will pipe-in with ‘but illegal crossing numbers are down’.

    Well, the stock market goes down from time to time—but it never stays there!

    ‘But most illegals over stay their visas’. So what? Do you leave your windows open when you leave the house because most thieves try the door?

    ‘But most of the heroin and fentanyl doesn’t come across the border’ [a dubious proposition]. So what again? That any at all gets into this country is unacceptable.

    ‘But most terrorists over stay their visas’. Most lol? You get the idea. There isn’t a good argument against a permanent barrier along our southern border.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    You good with money for the Wall in exchange for Citizenship for the Dreamers?
    If the wall was fully funded—I would give it a serious look.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    Sheer insanity, the shutdown has cost more than the amount being askef for in the first place. So that puts paid to any arsehole on here complaining about the cost.



    https://www.express.co.uk/news/world...nment-shutdown
    Yep, it was never about the money for Cartel Chucky and Coyote Pelosi.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Beto Omar View Post
    You’re making too much sense lol.

    Controlling the border is one of the first orders of business for any sane country. I’m beginning to question whether ours is sane or not. But right about here, some wag will pipe-in with ‘but illegal crossing numbers are down’.

    Well, the stock market goes down from time to time—but it never stays there!

    ‘But most illegals over stay their visas’. So what? Do you leave your windows open when you leave the house because most thieves try the door?

    ‘But most of the heroin and fentanyl doesn’t come across the border’ [a dubious proposition]. So what again? That any at all gets into this country is unacceptable.

    ‘But most terrorists over stay their visas’. Most lol? You get the idea. There isn’t a good argument against a permanent barrier along our southern border.
    It's hard to believe people can't look at a situation,understand it,and then look for a remedy -basic problem solving.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Beto Omar View Post
    If the wall was fully funded—I would give it a serious look.
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