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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    I remember that in 2004, ABB, Anybody But Bush and we saw how that turned out. Again, not in any way saying Trump is going to win.
    You mean the fraudulent 20004 election where Conservatives pulled shenanigans in Ohio? That election?

    Can Conservatives win legitimately anymore?
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    I'm no economics expert. In fact I'm pretty dumb on the topic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    fwiw, the election is still two years away and a lot of economists have predicted we will be in a recession within the next two years so there's no guarantee the economy will be in the same shape.
    Now back in 2017, when I said that the Russia Tax Cut was going to lead to a recession, and I supported that with economists, you said I "didn't know anything about the economy."

    Now here we are, a year later and you're repeating the very thing I said would happen 14 months ago, after trying to shame me for it.

    So your Russia Tax Cut was pointless then, since we're headed for a recession now.
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    I'm no economics expert. In fact I'm pretty dumb on the topic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    I post this not from a pro-Trump perspective but because Willie Brown knows politics and his column each week is a must read. It's just an interesting, or different, perspective to hear from a Democrat. (it doesn't mean he's right but Willie is a political sage)




    Democrats have a 2020 problem: Trump is good at elections

    Make no mistake, President Trump’s State of the Union address was the kickoff for his 2020 re-election campaign, and so far I’ve yet to see a Democrat who can beat him.

    During the partial government shutdown over whether to fund Trump’s wall on the southern border, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi suggested that the president deliver the annual address alone, from the Oval Office.

    I can see why.

    Alone, Trump is a frump. In front of a crowd, he’s electric.

    No matter what you think of Trump’s message, his delivery was impressive. He stayed on script and kept referring to everyday heroes in the gallery, thus forcing the Democrats to stand and cheer.

    It was populist theater, where presence and impression trump content.

    And the overnight polling after the speech showed that once again, he connected with voters, at least enough voters to make him a 2020 favorite.

    You can’t say the same for the Democratic contenders. They all have impressive credentials, winning personalities and positive messages, but none displays the “people personality” that our media-savvy president has mastered.

    Nearly four years ago, when Trump announced his candidacy for president, I said he had a winning hand. He still does.

    So we Democrats really have our work cut out for us.

    If he carefully picks his fights, Trump can turn the light back on Democrats and force us to defend our progressive wing’s “socialist” positions like health care for all, housing for all and guaranteed income.

    Our candidates will have to pull further and further to the left to satisfy the party’s activist constituency, much like Republicans did in response to the rise of the Tea Party, and probably with the same results.

    Our congressional efforts in 2018 benefited from Republican candidates’ inability to defend their relationship with Trump. But Trump can defend his relationship with himself very effectively.

    Let’s just hope Democrats can figure out that we need to go beyond the left and motivate voters across the board, just as midterm congressional campaigns did under Nancy Pelosi’s leadership.

    We know we can win California and New York. The question is: Can we win the states we lost in 2016, or do we preach to the choir in an empty church?


    https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/...t-13603018.php

    Uea ... he's had 1 that's called Luck, even he didn't think he was going to Win
    Trump isn't our 45th American president; he's our 1st Russian one.

    Remember this on Tuesday November 3rd, 2020

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    Trump is REALLy good at election time, especially when you roll out nut-bags with no ideas to run against

    I'm liking what I see

    Trump 2020

    #MAGA

    Quote Originally Posted by LV426 View Post
    since we're headed for a recession now.
    what trailer park do you live in?

    wake up tiny
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    YOUR PRESIDENT HIRED UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS FOR $4



    PRESIDENT TRUMP HIRED UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS FOR $4 AN HOUR FOR DEMOLITION PROJECT: COURT DOCS
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    Trump isn't our 45th American president; he's our 1st Russian one.

    Remember this on Tuesday November 3rd, 2020

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    Quote Originally Posted by Althea View Post
    There were/are no Socialists running. Unless you count the Russian operative in the White House.
    You can say there are no socialists running but they keep advocating socialist things lol.

    Trump will have a field day with it unless democrats can nominate a moderate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Beto Omar View Post
    You can say there are no socialists running but they keep advocating socialist things lol.

    Trump will have a field day with it unless democrats can nominate a moderate.
    Who's running as a Socialist?
    Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Althea View Post
    Who's running as a Socialist?
    Which democrat running has repudiated democratic socialism?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Althea View Post
    I know you weren't a trump fan, but I'm not sure where you saw him speak where he was 'impressive'? It was a Jerry Springer act.
    /shrugs....76% who heard it disagreed with you.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Polling shows 55 percent of the voters will absolutely not vote for him in 2020. That is a serious problem.
    it could be......if this is 2020 and not 2019......

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    But where is that 55% located?

    As I noted, the election will come down to three of four rust belt States
    the good news is the economy is up HUUUGE in the rust belt states.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Althea View Post
    I don't remember it that way. The converse is true. And...millenials and non white voters refused to show up in '16. That changed in '18, and will also be a factor in '20.
    it will be a huge factor if you let millennials and non white voters pick your candidate......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Beto Omar View Post
    Which democrat running has repudiated democratic socialism?
    So trump is running as a Russian operative?
    Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Althea View Post
    So trump is running as a Russian operative?

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