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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdog View Post
    So Elon Musk (gov't funded billionaire) has convinced millenials and Ocasio types that MARS will be colonized and their generation will be able to leave the planet Earth and live on Mars. Millenials actually belive this shit.

    It would be easier to colonize Antarctica.

    Bill Nye on Terraforming Mars: “Are You Guys High?” - Futurism
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    Nov 19, 2018 - Bill Nye thinks you’d have to be on drugs to believe Mars could ever be habitable for humans. “This whole idea of terraforming Mars, as respectful as I can be, are you guys high?”. ... Nye is a respected science communicator, so his opinion on the viability of Mars terraforming ...
    I wouldn’t go as far to say we could never colonize Mars.

    But the technology is light years away and it may never be possible. The travel time alone is absurd. Much less the costs associated with constructing even a rudimentary ‘living zone’ on Mars is beyond reckoning.

    How about we get back to the Moon first lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirthinksalot View Post
    So do you think there will be human colonies on Mars any time soon or not?
    No bloody chance, they still.havent worked out a way to get people to the surface without them ending up dead. Add to that the long journey, being continually bombarded by cosmic rays unless they provide heavy shielding around the crew. Even if they made it safely down to the surface, they would subjected to continuous radiation from space especially when they attempted to go outside to sample the Mars environment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Beto Omar View Post
    I wouldn’t go as far to say we could never colonize Mars.

    But the technology is light years away and it may never be possible. The travel time alone is absurd. Much less the costs associated with constructing even a rudimentary ‘living zone’ on Mars is beyond reckoning.

    How about we get back to the Moon first lol.
    The Russians and Chinese plan to go to the Moon in the next decade.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    The Russians and Chinese plan to go to the Moon in the next decade.
    Good.

    Maybe it will reinvigorate our space program. I’ve always thought that was a good way to spend tax dollars.
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    When [and if] they design a propulsion system to cut the travel time to Mars to weeks or months—then, the idea becomes at least theoretically plausible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Beto Omar View Post
    I wouldn’t go as far to say we could never colonize Mars.

    But the technology is light years away and it may never be possible. The travel time alone is absurd. Much less the costs associated with constructing even a rudimentary ‘living zone’ on Mars is beyond reckoning.

    How about we get back to the Moon first lol.
    I'm good with robotic exploration. But I'm against the U.S. sending humans back to the moon. It is impractical and unnecessary. JMHO.

    IMO, I'd rather the focus, first, be on creating a habitable biosphere type space station, wholly self-sustaining and independent of resupply from Earth, ... asteroid harvesting, and developing economical high speed, low Earth-orbit commercial flight capabilities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdog View Post
    So Elon Musk (gov't funded billionaire) has convinced millenials and Ocasio types that MARS will be colonized and their generation will be able to leave the planet Earth and live on Mars. Millenials actually belive this shit.

    It would be easier to colonize Antarctica.

    Bill Nye on Terraforming Mars: “Are You Guys High?” - Futurism
    https://futurism.com/bill-nye-mars-terraforming-high
    Nov 19, 2018 - Bill Nye thinks you’d have to be on drugs to believe Mars could ever be habitable for humans. “This whole idea of terraforming Mars, as respectful as I can be, are you guys high?”. ... Nye is a respected science communicator, so his opinion on the viability of Mars terraforming ...
    get off the grass old man, who said you can leave the convalescent home?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tinfoil View Post
    STFU idiot. It's you fucking liberals who want people fired for doubting anthropogenic forcing will cause catastrophe. Just STFU
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    What an intelligent and reasoned response. LOL @ you losing your shit.
    Isn't it funny that you would chastise someone for doing the same things you do? Example
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    Quote Originally Posted by tinfoil View Post
    STFU idiot. It's you fucking liberals who want people fired for doubting anthropogenic forcing will cause catastrophe. Just STFU
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    I don't at all care for the idea of a bunch of assholes clomping about on my moon. Leave it be. It's ROMANTIC. It's INSPIRATIONAL. It's SPIRITUALLY IMPORTANT.
    It ain't a fucking resource for Capitalism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    She means in schooling before college. Most Conservatives don't make it past high school.
    You're correct if you believe a liberal arts degree is higher education than a Trade School degree. I believe this applies to you and those who think like you.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdog View Post
    So Elon Musk (gov't funded billionaire) has convinced millenials and Ocasio types that MARS will be colonized and their generation will be able to leave the planet Earth and live on Mars. Millenials actually belive this shit.

    It would be easier to colonize Antarctica.

    Bill Nye on Terraforming Mars: “Are You Guys High?” - Futurism
    https://futurism.com/bill-nye-mars-terraforming-high
    Nov 19, 2018 - Bill Nye thinks you’d have to be on drugs to believe Mars could ever be habitable for humans. “This whole idea of terraforming Mars, as respectful as I can be, are you guys high?”. ... Nye is a respected science communicator, so his opinion on the viability of Mars terraforming ...
    First of all, Elon Musck isn't a gov't funded billionaire. Second, none of the millennials I know think humans can colonize Mars. I don't know what 3 or 4 millennials you've talked to but you should have a bigger sample size before you claim that ALL MILLENIALS think a certain way.

    That's the problem with you radicalized right wing extremists. You observe a very small sample of people and apply your observation to the whole group. It's a very naive and immature way to reach a conclusion. I hope you don't do the same thing with African Americans or Muslims but I'm guessing that you do because you are so naive and immature.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DonaldvoTrumpovich View Post
    First of all, Elon Musck isn't a gov't funded billionaire. Second, none of the millennials I know think humans can colonize Mars. I don't know what 3 or 4 millennials you've talked to but you should have a bigger sample size before you claim that ALL MILLENIALS think a certain way.

    That's the problem with you radicalized right wing extremists. You observe a very small sample of people and apply your observation to the whole group. It's a very naive and immature way to reach a conclusion. I hope you don't do the same thing with African Americans or Muslims but I'm guessing that you do because you are so naive and immature.
    You're an out of touch, clueless old angry, fucking ancient, white orwellian socialist authoritarian.


    The certitude that millenials have that they can choose to live on Mars, is so deep, so endemic, so pervasive ... that South Park made an episode mocking the whole millenial belief.

    "Mars or Bust! 'South Park' Kids Visit SpaceX HQ - Space.com
    https://www.space.com › Entertainment
    Nov 21, 2016 - Eager to get on the first spaceship leaving for Mars, Cartman and his girlfriend Heidi visit SpaceX in last week's (Nov. 16) episode of "South Park.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdog View Post
    Bill Nye crushes MILLENIALS' belief & CERTITUDE that they can choose to live on MARS

    So Elon Musk (gov't funded billionaire) has convinced millenials and Ocasio types that MARS will be colonized and their generation will be able to leave the planet Earth and live on Mars. Millenials actually belive this shit.

    It would be easier to colonize Antarctica.

    Bill Nye on Terraforming Mars: “Are You Guys High?” - Futurism
    https://futurism.com/bill-nye-mars-terraforming-high
    Nov 19, 2018 - Bill Nye thinks you’d have to be on drugs to believe Mars could ever be habitable for humans. “This whole idea of terraforming Mars, as respectful as I can be, are you guys high?”. ... Nye is a respected science communicator, so his opinion on the viability of Mars terraforming ...
    I do not think I have ever met a millennial who told me they are going to have the choice to live on Mars.

    I would like to see a credible scientific poll result of millennials that backs your assertion, or else an admission your thread title is inaccurate, wrong, and based on guesswork.

    I have also never been a proponent of elderly, cynical dudes making fun of whatever optimism and vision millennials have. Whatever engineering and technological challenges exist for human habitation of Mars, I for one think it is extremely healthy to dream, to have vision, to have optimism. Elon Musk's enthusiasm strikes me as genuine.
    The average age of a Trump voter is, what, seventy nine? I do not see the point of infecting millennials with the cynicism, doubt, and pessimism of Trump voters who are not long for this world.

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    Right. It isn't like we have any better uses for our tax dollars. Those of you who want to dream about it should pay for it yourselves with voluntary taxes. Meanwhile, a huge percentage of our bridges are, "structurally deficient." Flint, Michigan still doesn't have clean water.
    All along, there have been accidents and incidents.

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