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    Quote Originally Posted by Howard the Duck View Post
    Look, if your tax burden goes-up in spite of tax cuts and the doubling of the standard deduction, then you screwed-up your taxes. You are seriously a fucking idiot. Leftists get elected to offices in America because there are people as dumb as you that Darwin has failed to catch-up with.
    No, the problem is that you supported the Russia Tax Cut without thinking through the implications of it. It's not just me who is unhappy, millions of Trumpanzees are unhappy too. So if your campaign is to tell voters who support Trump that they're stupid, be my guest. See how that strategy plays out for you electorally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Howard the Duck View Post
    Nothing was eliminated, you fucking idiot. There was a cap set on mortgage deductions, but it was set at $750,000.
    Yes, deductions and exemptions were eliminated.

    If your deductions and exemptions totalled more than $24K in any given year, you got screwed by this.

    Telling your fellow Trump voters that they're stupid isn't a strategy that is going to win in 2020.



    SALT deduction have a cap, because the purpose was to get rich people in blue states to pay their fair share. Now they will.
    No, the purpose was to use the Russia Tax Cut to turn people against their own states, which is weird, because you're the ones who are all about states doing things on their own.

    Good luck in 2020 telling your fellow Trumpanzees that they're too stupid to see the benefit of raising their tax liability. Good work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Howard the Duck View Post
    My taxes were cut, you retard. I pay less in taxes now than I did in 2017.
    Right, but your liability increased. Just like millions of other Trumpanzees.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tinfoil View Post
    I am a carpenter and wood floor contractor. 30 years experience. A total expert
    Which has nothing to do with real estate sales.

    You're a contractor, not a realtor, so your "trades" isn't a trade publication, it's not even the sector of housing that has anything to do with home prices.

    You're just a contractor. Not someone who knows about the housing market.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Callinectes Ocasio-Cortez View Post
    You always struck me as someone who would throw a party on April 15th because you wanted to celebrate paying your taxes, now you're all butthurt because your tax "burden" has gone up? When did it become a burden? From what I can deduce, your precious refund is going to go down, not disappear. My tax burden(and I do consider a large portion of it to be a true burden)is going to be lower and after I pay this year, I'm still going to need to take a few showers and curl up with a bottle of scotch. So relax, these tax cuts expire in 2025, and you got 500 demorats running for president next year that want nothing more than to raise taxes. Let's see how that goes
    I told you how the burden went up, and I even used average numbers from past tax seasons to prove my point.

    You're the ones who promised this would be all sunshine and rainbows, and now refunds are 8% smaller than last year.

    You think people are dumb enough to believe that because you cut the marginal rate temporarily that your tax burden also was decreased. Or maybe you're dumb enough to believe it. Who knows? You said yourself that you hadn't done your taxes yet, so you don't even know what your liability actually is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by #MAGA View Post
    That pleases meYou should be happy too. I always hear leftists say they don’t mind paying more in taxes. You should be thrilled
    So what started out as a tax cut you pitched that would have universal benefit has devolved into a petty game of politics.

    So thanks for admitting there's no economic or fiscal ground for your argument to stand on...you're just playing the politics of pettiness because your policy sucks and you know it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Callinectes Ocasio-Cortez View Post
    Oh so completely wrong! I have no idea how this thing came to pass. Did it get voted on? I suppose so, but I wonder how many democrats voted for it. Believe me, I never thought about how it affected YOU, or anyone else for that matter.
    Right, because you're a sociopath.

    And now you're trying to walk back your support for this dumb thing now that so many of your fellow Trumpanzees are mad.

    Well, you don't get a lifeboat here. You are stuck with this Russia Tax Cut and all the fallout of it.

    Good luck in 2020...you're gonna need it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Badguy View Post
    You guys are clearly doing your taxes wrong if you're getting less or having to pay. Why don't you just take advantage of the new private jet deduction?
    "They" can take a private jet deduction (when they can't take a taxpayer PAID FOR government jet) but I can't write off my GARAGE which has work shit on racks piled up 8 feet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Centerleftfl View Post
    "They" can write off a private jet deduction (when they can't take a US PAID FOR JET) and I can't write off my GARAGE which has work shit on racks piled up 8 feet.

    I am a little confused by that. If you are a business you can write off quite a bit within reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Centerleftfl View Post
    "They" can take a private jet deduction (when they can't take a taxpayer PAID FOR government jet but I can't write off my GARAGE which has work shit on racks piled up 8 feet.
    Conservatives knew this would be the result of their Russia Tax Cut, and attacked us for accurately predicting this handout to the wealthy.

    Tax revenues for 2018 were less than 2017.

    So not only did the Russia Tax Cut raise most taxpayers' liability, it also starved the Treasury of revenue so that we collected less in 2018 than 2017.

    Conservatives said their trickle-down would pay for itself in increased revenues from increased economic activity.

    SPOILER ALERT: It didn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LV426 View Post
    Yes, deductions and exemptions were eliminated.

    If your deductions and exemptions totalled more than $24K in any given year, you got screwed by this.

    Telling your fellow Trump voters that they're stupid isn't a strategy that is going to win in 2020.





    No, the purpose was to use the Russia Tax Cut to turn people against their own states, which is weird, because you're the ones who are all about states doing things on their own.

    Good luck in 2020 telling your fellow Trumpanzees that they're too stupid to see the benefit of raising their tax liability. Good work.
    I think I posted 250 posts ago, this was about ARITHMETIC. Not even fancy math. DEDUCTIONS, PERSONAL EXEMPTIONS, THRESHOLDS of income. Some will win, some will hold static and some will lose! And a whole BUNCH are GOING TO BE SURPRISED!

    And we'll have a damn good idea BEFORE APR 15.
    WK1 3/28-/4 _Cases 301k--Dead 18.1k Lethality 2.72%
    WK2 4/5-/13 _Cases 555k--Dead 22.1K Lethality 3.9%
    WK3 4/20-/21 Cases 774k -Dead 37.2K Lethality 4.8%
    WK4 4/22-/29 Cases 1M --Dead 58.8K Lethality 5.9%
    WK5 5/1-/8__ Cases 1.3M -Dead 75.7K Lethality 6.1%
    WK6 5/9-16__Cases 1.4M --Dead 85.8K Lethality 6.1%
    WK7 5/17-24_Cases 1.7M - Dead 97.6K Lethality 5.9%
    WK8 5/28 Cases 1.7M - DEAD 101.2K - Same

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    Quote Originally Posted by LV426 View Post
    Conservatives knew this would be the result of their Russia Tax Cut, and attacked us for accurately predicting this handout to the wealthy.

    Tax revenues for 2018 were less than 2017.

    So not only did the Russia Tax Cut raise most taxpayers' liability, it also starved the Treasury of revenue so that we collected less in 2018 than 2017.

    Conservatives said their trickle-down would pay for itself in increased revenues from increased economic activity.

    SPOILER ALERT: It didn't.
    It NEVER TRICKLED DOWN! Ask Stockman.
    WK1 3/28-/4 _Cases 301k--Dead 18.1k Lethality 2.72%
    WK2 4/5-/13 _Cases 555k--Dead 22.1K Lethality 3.9%
    WK3 4/20-/21 Cases 774k -Dead 37.2K Lethality 4.8%
    WK4 4/22-/29 Cases 1M --Dead 58.8K Lethality 5.9%
    WK5 5/1-/8__ Cases 1.3M -Dead 75.7K Lethality 6.1%
    WK6 5/9-16__Cases 1.4M --Dead 85.8K Lethality 6.1%
    WK7 5/17-24_Cases 1.7M - Dead 97.6K Lethality 5.9%
    WK8 5/28 Cases 1.7M - DEAD 101.2K - Same

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    Quote Originally Posted by Centerleftfl View Post
    I think I posted 250 posts ago, this was about ARITHMETIC. Not even fancy math. DEDUCTIONS, PERSONAL EXEMPTIONS, THRESHOLDS of income. Some will win, some will hold static and some will lose! And a whole BUNCH are GOING TO BE SURPRISED!

    And we'll have a damn good idea BEFORE APR 15.
    We predicted this would happen back in December 2017, but Conservatives insisted that everyone's incomes would rise by $4K-$9K.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LV426 View Post
    Right, because you're a sociopath.
    Really wish you guys would look up the definition of that word. Am I a sociopath because I don't give a rat's ass how you prepare your taxes? Do you give a rat's ass how I prepare my taxes? If you do, cut it out, sociopath!
    And now you're trying to walk back your support for this dumb thing now that so many of your fellow Trumpanzees are mad.
    When the fuck did I ever try to walk back my support for a tax cut?! I'm hoping for another one!
    Well, you don't get a lifeboat here. You are stuck with this Russia Tax Cut and all the fallout of it.
    Don't want a "lifeboat", didn't ask for one. And please...please, stick me with more "russian" tax cuts! I gladly accept all of the fallout from them, which is...tax cuts. BTW, you never answered my question about why you call this a russian tax cut. Russians don't have tax cuts
    Good luck in 2020...you're gonna need it.
    What are you guys gonna run on? Higher taxes? Good luck in 2020...you're gonna need it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Callinectes Ocasio-Cortez View Post
    Really wish you guys would look up the definition of that word. Am I a sociopath because I don't give a rat's ass how you prepare your taxes? Do you give a rat's ass how I prepare my taxes? If you do, cut it out, sociopath!
    No, you're a sociopath because your justification for this Russia Tax Cut devolved into a game of pettiness. You couldn't and can't defend the economics of the Russia Tax Cut, so you migrate your argument to one of selfishness. But that's wildly different then how you all were pitching the tax cut in December 2017.

    So you've changed your argument because every promise you made before turned out to be a lie, so what was a universal good, has become "I'm glad others are being hurt."
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