Lets review the 3 top Dems in Va

[volsrock]

2 in black face and one rapist...and all 3 still have their jobs

[canceled.2021.3]

Well I will stay consistent and not hold them accountable for 35 year old actions.

I wonder if JPP leftists will remain consistent. They were gung ho in calling for the governor to resign because it was risk free virtue signaling.

But now if they call for all of them to resign it would make a Republican the Governor

[volsrock]

Well the rapist has to go...and if they give the black face guys a pass...everyone from here on out gets the same pass

[Irish Exit]

Well the rapist has to go...and if they give the black face guys a pass...everyone from here on out gets the same pass

I think the governor has to go. The rapist story I am skeptical of. It isn't like the person didn't have ample opportunity before now to fire that torpedo.

[Bourbon]

I have to admit, I'm in total agreement here ...

The Two Back-Face admissions are Cut-n-Dry and are NOT debatable because they admitted to it. We're DONE!

The Sexual Assault accusation is different. Personally, I tend to side on the Women, because she has ZERO to gain ... She Knew the Man, she's a life long Democrat and she was reluctant to come out. Additionally, rape accusation are a criminal matter.

But here's the challenge for Both Liberals and Conservatives; I can see why Conservatives here on this forum were reluctant to discuss this, given everything they've said on-record about Judge Kavanaugh.

A) YES - absolutely there should be an investigation; but unlike the Kavanaugh investigation, it needs to be a full investigation and not a 5 day FBI Limited Whitewash.
B) Once again, this is a HE-said / She-said accusation, so should both be allowed due-process, unlike Senator Franken?
C) If evidence proves this was a Sexual Assault, stepping down is NOT enough, JAIL TIME is appropriate. That's how real Democrat should roll.

So ... wha-da-ya say Trump Supporters ... is what's Good for the Goose, now Good for the Gander or should Politics be taken out and allow Justice to take place and The Truth be told?

[CFM]

Well I will stay consistent and not hold them accountable for 35 year old actions.

I wonder if JPP leftists will remain consistent. They were gung ho in calling for the governor to resign because it was risk free virtue signaling.

But now if they call for all of them to resign it would make a Republican the Governor

JPP leftists have already shown they aren't consistent.

[Bourbon]

Well I will stay consistent and not hold them accountable for 35 year old actions.

I wonder if JPP leftists will remain consistent. They were gung ho in calling for the governor to resign because it was risk free virtue signaling.

But now if they call for all of them to resign it would make a Republican the Governor

I agree ... God only knows what I did 35 years ago ... and trust me, he knows and I'm just fine with it.

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I agree ... God only knows what I did 35 years ago ... and trust me, he knows and I'm just fine with it.

Did you take that same position during the Kavanaugh hearings? Are you being politically consistent?

I am sure I can find many a post of you demanding Kavanaugh not be confirmed because of 35 year old accusations/actions. But maybe that was different?

Oh yeah, and the black guy you slobbered all over appears to have sexually assaulted a woman and I haven't seen you start a thread on it condemning him which seems to be very out of character for you. You are always very quick to start threads when a republican is accused of misdeeds so I thought..................oh never mind

[Bourbon]

Did you take that same position during the Kavanaugh hearings? Are you being politically consistent?

I am sure I can find many a post of you demanding Kavanaugh not be confirmed because of 35 year old accusations/actions. But maybe that was different?

Oh yeah, and the black guy you slobbered all over appears to have sexually assaulted a woman and I haven't seen you start a thread on it condemning him which seems to be very out of character for you. You are always very quick to start threads when a republican is accused of misdeeds so I thought..................oh never mind

The Position I Took, is the same I'm taking NOW!

There needs to be NO-LESS an Investigation?
Personally, I can't imagine any woman going through this for nothing in return.

I believed Kavanaugh was a Entitled Dirt Bag, and The 5 day Whitewash only proved that there was something to hide.

That's my position ...

[canceled.2021.3]

The Position I Took, is the same I'm taking NOW!

There needs to be NO-LESS an Investigation?
Personally, I can't imagine any woman going through this for nothing in return.

I believed Kavanaugh was a Entitled Dirt Bag, and The 5 day Whitewash only proved that there was something to hide.

That's my position ...

So you can point me to the many threads you started on the negro Lt Gov your were masturbating over the other day calling for a FULL FBI investigation? Or maybe you can't?

I get it, you support sexual predators when they are democrats. It's ok

[Bourbon]

Which is more inappropriate?



Not holding an elected leader adequately accountable for prior acts of racial insensitivity/prejudice, or allowing an opposing political party with a systematic record of racial intolerance to take over the administration of a State's government, to then implement policies rejected by the electorate in the last gubernatorial election?

What is happening now in Virginia with the three top state wide elected officials can't be looked at as individual cases only. There will be profound adverse effects on the lives of millions of Virginia citizens it the Republican Party, which was soundly defeated in their efforts to win state wide leadership positions in the last election, now inherits the Governor's position by default.

If Virginia's Governor and Attorney General are forced out of office due to their past acts of prejudice, and the Lt. Governor is forced out over an alleged sexual assault, Republicans will then control Virginia. There will be real life consequences for women and People of Color if that happens.

What Lt. Governor Fairfax is being accused of is a literal serious crime. If the accusation is true he can not remain in office. If the weight of available evidence leads the public to believe that he likely is guilty of that crime then he can not hold office. If he is indicted of a crime he can not hold a leadership position. This is still a fluid situation as Fairfax strongly denies the allegation of non nonsexual sex, but the evidential standard that would make him an unsuitable leader is lower than that which would be needed to convict him.

Which brings us to the number one and number three positions in Virginia's executive branch. Neither is accused of a crime. In my opinion the prior misdeeds of the current Governor are more serious than that of the AG. Northam was in his mid twenties when they occurred, Herring was 19. The blackface photo Northam is associated with also included the most stark representation of white supremacy possible, the KKK. The blackface portrayal was an overtly mocking presence. That photo was published in Northam's yearbook. I do not find it credible that he never learned of that at least after the fact, assuming he is to believed that he disn't submit that photo himself, which it is hard to do given his shifting stories. But beyond that, Northam admitted to another blackface incident, and his public stance regarding all of it is an underwhelming display of insufficient understanding of the pain he has caused.

AG Herring was a teenager who at least plausibly had positive feelings about the rapper he tried to imitate. There was no subsequent public record of the photo taken at that party, and the tone of Herring's apology rings with greater sincerity and understanding of the seriousness of his error than did that or Northam.

Given the high stakes involved, leadership of the State of Virginia with all that entails for the citizens of that State, I believe Democrats should rally behind Attorney General Herring now and forgive him, if nothing else for pragmatic but very significant and far reaching policy reasons. The man committed no crime. But it would be a crime to now in effect potentially overturn the last election and hand Republicans the keys to Virginia.

[Bourbon]

Statement from Lt. Governor Justin Fairfax



I’d like to begin by emphasizing how important it is for us to listen to women when they come forward with allegations of sexual assault or harassment. As a former prosecutor and someone who is close with a number of women who are survivors of sexual assault, I know that many survivors of sexual assault suffer in silence, and it is absolutely essential to their healing and our healing as a culture that we give all survivors the space and support to voice their stories.

Regarding the allegation that has been made against me – while this allegation has been both surprising and hurtful, I also recognize that no one makes charges of this kind lightly, and I take it and this situation very seriously.

This has been an emotional couple of days for me and my family. And in my remarks on Monday, I think you could hear how emotional dealing with an allegation that I know is not true has been for me.

As I have stated previously, fifteen years ago, when I was an unmarried law student, I had a consensual encounter with the woman who made the allegation. At no time did she express to me any discomfort or concern about our interactions, neither during that encounter, nor during the months following it, when she stayed in touch with me, nor the past fifteen years. She in no way indicated that anything that had happened between us made her uncomfortable.

The first indication I had that she felt that anything that had happened between us fifteen years ago made her uncomfortable was when I was contacted by a national media organization shortly before my inauguration in 2018. I voluntarily met with their staff, in person, told them what I knew about the encounter and responded to all of their questions. I also shared the allegation and my account of the events with a number of leaders in Richmond because then, as now, I have nothing to hide.

I would like to encourage the media, my supporters, and others to treat both the woman who made this allegation and my family with respect for how painful this situation can be for everyone involved. I wish her no harm or humiliation, nor do I seek to denigrate her or diminish her voice. But I cannot agree with a description of events that I know is not true.

If we learned anything from the past week, it’s that we have to listen to people’s experiences to learn from them so we can make progress. Like many of you, I’ve spent time over the last several days discussing difficult subjects with people very close to me. I believe that if we continue to listen, we will continue to make the progress that makes the Commonwealth of Virginia a unique place, not only in the South, but in the United States of America.

These are unprecedented and difficult times. We have the opportunity to prove ourselves worthy of the challenge and come together. I look forward to continuing my work to unify the Commonwealth.

[CFM]

The Position I Took, is the same I'm taking NOW!

There needs to be NO-LESS an Investigation?
Personally, I can't imagine any woman going through this for nothing in return.

I believed Kavanaugh was a Entitled Dirt Bag, and The 5 day Whitewash only proved that there was something to hide.

That's my position ...

That he had been confirmed many time before and Ballsy could have come forward at any time proves there was nothing but hate for Trump as her motivation.

[Bigdog]

The Position I Took, is the same I'm taking NOW!

There needs to be NO-LESS an Investigation?
Personally, I can't imagine any woman going through this for nothing in return.

I believed Kavanaugh was a Entitled Dirt Bag, and The 5 day Whitewash only proved that there was something to hide.

That's my position ...

Over Kavanaugh's career, he was subjected to 6 full, lengthy fbi investigations.

[domer76]

Did you take that same position during the Kavanaugh hearings? Are you being politically consistent?

I am sure I can find many a post of you demanding Kavanaugh not be confirmed because of 35 year old accusations/actions. But maybe that was different?

Oh yeah, and the black guy you slobbered all over appears to have sexually assaulted a woman and I haven't seen you start a thread on it condemning him which seems to be very out of character for you. You are always very quick to start threads when a republican is accused of misdeeds so I thought..................oh never mind

Kavanaugh lied under oath, regardless of any other accusations.