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    Default Why do we need politicians? ---Please discuss this subject

    Why do we need politicians?

    I can see why a Mayor is useful ONLY when there is a population density of 1 family per every square mile...but...

    IF A FAMILY UNIT ELECTED ITS OWN MAYOR:

    If you Elect someone in your family to be the Mayor [mayor is Spanish means "The Best"] of your family....

    That Mayor would be paid by the family...

    That Mayor would then raise their Pay-Rate [ala Taxes]...

    That Mayor would spend to money without disclosure...

    Go ahead and elect a Mayor.


    Which Chief of the Police,
    or Chief of the Fire dept
    or Chief of Sanitation,
    or Chief of the Post Office ,
    or Chief of Hospital Doctors
    needs a Mayor to do their jobs?

    Which school teacher needs a Mayor to do their jobs?

    Which Chief cannot do their jobs without a Mayor?

    When was that last time your Mayor showed up at your place of work to "examine" your work acumen?

    Without a Mayor, no one will remove the snow from the streets?

    Do you check with the Mayor before posting your opinion here of JPP?

    A politician and his "Government" should have a money generating business that does not run on contributions from tax payers.

    Replace politicians with 24/7 tally boards of A/P & A/R ---everyone else can stay busy working until their pension kicks in!

    At the end of every day EZ-PASS accounting dept knows the Year to date's balance.

    But common folks have to wait a year to find out how much their politicians have put them into debt.

    Why else do folks need to worry about the "cost of living" increases, one school graduation class after the other.

    Please discuss this subject.

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    Administrators are different from Figureheads with ulterior motives.

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    We need people to run the Show. Do you want Anarchy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    We need people to run the Show. Do you want Anarchy?
    The Founders never envisioned full time legislators that only work a third of the time. Therein lies the problem.
    I know that most men, including those at ease with problems of the greatest complexity, can seldom accept even the simplest and most obvious truth if it be such as would oblige them to admit the falsity of conclusions which they have delighted in explaining to colleagues, which they have proudly taught to others, and which they have woven, thread by thread, into the fabric of their lives. Leo Tolstoy

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    the political class are power hungry parasites.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    We need people to run the Show. Do you want Anarchy?
    The butcher the baker and the candlestick maker and the fisherman and the teacher and the washermanand the policeman and the fireman and the plumber and the electrician and the cook and the taxi driver and truck driver and the dress maker .... all of them know their jobs...each has a boss and supervisor and accounting dept and mailroom clerk and even a bunch of lawyers ...


    WHEN DOES THE POLITICIAN NEED TO GET INVOLVED?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bhaktajan View Post
    The butcher the baker and the candlestick maker and the fisherman and the teacher and the washermanand the policeman and the fireman and the plumber and the electrician and the cook and the taxi driver and truck driver and the dress maker .... all of them know their jobs...each has a boss and supervisor and accounting dept and mailroom clerk and even a bunch of lawyers ...


    WHEN DOES THE POLITICIAN NEED TO GET INVOLVED?
    Maintain Order.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bhaktajan View Post
    Why do we need politicians?

    I can see why a Mayor is useful ONLY when there is a population density of 1 family per every square mile...but...

    IF A FAMILY UNIT ELECTED ITS OWN MAYOR:

    If you Elect someone in your family to be the Mayor [mayor is Spanish means "The Best"] of your family....

    That Mayor would be paid by the family...

    That Mayor would then raise their Pay-Rate [ala Taxes]...

    That Mayor would spend to money without disclosure...

    Go ahead and elect a Mayor.


    Which Chief of the Police,
    or Chief of the Fire dept
    or Chief of Sanitation,
    or Chief of the Post Office ,
    or Chief of Hospital Doctors
    needs a Mayor to do their jobs?

    Which school teacher needs a Mayor to do their jobs?

    Which Chief cannot do their jobs without a Mayor?

    When was that last time your Mayor showed up at your place of work to "examine" your work acumen?

    Without a Mayor, no one will remove the snow from the streets?

    Do you check with the Mayor before posting your opinion here of JPP?

    A politician and his "Government" should have a money generating business that does not run on contributions from tax payers.

    Replace politicians with 24/7 tally boards of A/P & A/R ---everyone else can stay busy working until their pension kicks in!

    At the end of every day EZ-PASS accounting dept knows the Year to date's balance.

    But common folks have to wait a year to find out how much their politicians have put them into debt.

    Why else do folks need to worry about the "cost of living" increases, one school graduation class after the other.

    Please discuss this subject.
    Because the Founders designed a representative government

    Its a GOOD thing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Trapper View Post
    The Founders never envisioned full time legislators that only work a third of the time. Therein lies the problem.
    Pretty hard for them to know what the world would look like 200 years later

    Its why they designed a government where the CURRENT HUMANS were at the helm

    ITS A GOOD THING

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    Pretty hard for them to know what the world would look like 200 years later

    Its why they designed a government where the CURRENT HUMANS were at the helm

    ITS A GOOD THING
    We still have no need for full time legislators who spend most of their time trying to get reelected, and garnering more money. Most States do not have full time legislators.
    I know that most men, including those at ease with problems of the greatest complexity, can seldom accept even the simplest and most obvious truth if it be such as would oblige them to admit the falsity of conclusions which they have delighted in explaining to colleagues, which they have proudly taught to others, and which they have woven, thread by thread, into the fabric of their lives. Leo Tolstoy

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    The butcher the baker and the candlestick maker and the fisherman and the teacher and the washermanand the policeman and the fireman and the plumber and the electrician and the cook and the taxi driver and truck driver and the dress maker .... all of them know their jobs...each has a boss and supervisor and accounting dept and mailroom clerk and even a bunch of lawyers ...


    WHEN DOES THE POLITICIAN NEED TO GET INVOLVED?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    Maintain Order.
    Yes. For disputes.

    No Politician is required until there is a division on opinions of a group of members.

    WHICH WAY SHOULD WE GO?

    Parties form to be represented as a bloc of same minded members.

    After time passes we uniformly accept this as means to resolve differing claims ---one cannot take his own opinion as acceptable to all's concerns. So laws and parliamentary debate allows different minded members to compromise mutually.

    So it is only when differing members BOTH pay taxes to the same coffers ---that politicizing Politicians are born.

    Politicians are likened to Labor Union foremen that savvy-ly Keep to workers happy ---except that Politicians don't produce any commodities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bhaktajan View Post
    Yes. For disputes.

    No Politician is required until there is a division on opinions of a group of members.

    WHICH WAY SHOULD WE GO?

    Parties form to be represented as a bloc of same minded members.

    After time passes we uniformly accept this as means to resolve differing claims ---one cannot take his own opinion as acceptable to all's concerns. So laws and parliamentary debate allows different minded members to compromise mutually.

    So it is only when differing members BOTH pay taxes to the same coffers ---that politicizing Politicians are born.

    Politicians are likened to Labor Union foremen that savvy-ly Keep to workers happy ---except that Politicians don't produce any commodities.
    "---except that Politicians don't produce any commodities".
    Jack: That's what the Worker Drones are for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Trapper View Post
    We still have no need for full time legislators who spend most of their time trying to get reelected, and garnering more money. Most States do not have full time legislators.
    you are being insane

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    you are being insane
    Then you explain why we need full time legislators who only "work" 100 days a year. Hell, they take that much time off for vacations, holidays, etc.
    I know that most men, including those at ease with problems of the greatest complexity, can seldom accept even the simplest and most obvious truth if it be such as would oblige them to admit the falsity of conclusions which they have delighted in explaining to colleagues, which they have proudly taught to others, and which they have woven, thread by thread, into the fabric of their lives. Leo Tolstoy

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